How many gods are there?

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  1. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    the bible does not say "these are the FAKE gods of the Greeks". It says "the GOD" and "the GODS". The fact that Jehovah is the god of the Hebrews and Zeus is the god of the Greeks and Shiva is a god of the Hindu and Thor is a god of the Norsemen, Is evidence that gods are locally invented by fearful and ignorant savages. There is actually no REAL evidence that any god exists, not Shiva, Zeus, Jehovah, Jesus or any of them. There is only myth, conjecture, supposition and superstitious belief.
     
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    Are you taking into account the god of satanism? The god of computer? The god of Money? The god of food? The god of selfishness? The god of stuff? The god of atheism which is self-ishness. Your god is what you spend time with the most, what you chase after. There is a god of lasciviousness. There is a god of internet. a god of alcohol consumption, a god of nightclubbing.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    He may see what is in front of him, but his superstitious nature forces him to interpret it in a way that make him better than those that do not believe as him. It is an egotistical, prideful, idiotic and ignorant method of forcing TRUTH (ones beliefs) on a reality that does not match personal beliefs. There is no evidence in the real world that any god or gods exist.
     
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    It is a shame that so many conservatives fear education, but it is understandable, since knowledge gets in the way of fear and superstition. Anyone with a fourth grade American education should have studied the basics of western civilization, which includes a study of Greek history and their gods. Zeus, the father of gods, hurler of lightening and king of thunder, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
     
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    Thoooooooooooooooooor!
     
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    Zeus was a God of the Greeks, or rather The King of the Gods.

    It's widely accepted by scholars that Jesus did in fact exist.

    I was simply debunking one of the obvious errors as supposed proof for the Bible being Polytheistic. Apparently you have trouble understanding the difference between what a culture believes and what other cultures believe.

    I don't fear education, and I happen to know a little bit about Western Civilization. Just a little bit though, but I at least know enough to know that Zeus was not the father of the Gods.

    The Greek Pantheon of Gods was really one big not so happy family. Zeus was the son of Cronus, and Rhea. Their parents where Gaea and Ouranos. Zeus's siblings where as follows: Hades, Poseidon, Hera, Hestia, and Demeter. Sorry, but father of the Gods? No.
     
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    I deny all other gods, but suspect that the gods of other religions may be avatars of various aspects of mine own one true G-d.
     
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    Thor indeed had power of lightning and thunder, as did Zeus. However, Zeus was the father of gods, and Thor was one of many children of ODIN, the All-father and father of many gods. In the ancient Greek religion, Zeus was the primary god, and in Norse religion, Odin was the primary god. For a god to have power of thunder and lightning is quite common, lol, even Jehovah showed that he controlled the weather. And did not Jesus quiet the waters of the lake and calm the storm?
    Roman - Jupiter
    Greek - Zeus
    Norse - Thor
    Shinto -Susanowo
    Egypt - Set/Seth
    Aztec -Tlaloc
    Babylonia - Enlil
    Persia - Vayu
    India - Indra
    Sioux - Wakinyan Tanka.
    Balkans - Perkūnas
    German - Donar
    Finland - Ukko
    Islam - Allah
    Israel - jehovah
    Australia - Namarrkun
    Christianity - Jesus
    China - Lei Gong
    Nigeria - Sango
    Bolivia - Tunupã

    Hmm, that covers 6 continents, but I don't seem to recall any from Antarctica. Well, there are thousands more gods of weather to find. It seems that being in control of the weather is a quite common characteristic of gods, hmm, wonder why that is?
     
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    There are also many Gods that cover human emotions! Don't forget those!
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    "accepted by scholars" is NOT evidence, sorry. I said there is no real evidence of the existence of Jesus and that fact remains. There is evidence of Pilate, who supposedly ordered the death of Jesus, but no evidence of Jesus himself.

    Zeus was indeed called the father of gods because he was the supreme god of the Greek pantheon. As Walter Burkert points out in his book, Greek Religion, "Even the gods who are not his natural children address him as Father, and all the gods rise in his presence". His children included but are not limited to - Athena, Apollo and Artemis, Hermes, Persephone, Dionysus, Perseus, Heracles, Helen of Troy, Minos, the Muses, **** and Hephaestus.

    The bible is quite polytheistic it includes references to several gods of the Hebrews, including Asherah, the Shekinah, consort and beloved of Yahweh. God-the-Mother. Her sacred pillars or poles once stood right beside Yahweh's altar, embracing it. Moses and Aaron both carried one of these Asherah "poles" as a sacred staff of power.

    If you go back and really read the bible, especially the parts with Moses, you will notice that MOSES did NOT say there is one god. Moses said the the Hebrews MUST undertake to worship only one god. He did not say that there was but one God, but insisted that it was Israel’s duty to have but one God.

    I suggest you refer to Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible. The Hebrews believed in many gods and there is EVIDENCE that they worshiped Asherah, the wife of Jehovah, into the first century AD.

    By the way, the simple fact that Christians believe in TWO gods, makes them Polytheistic - Jesus and Satan.
     
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    How many Gods are there? Part 2
     
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