How many members would like a firearms discussion area

I don't have a problem with used guns, especially the high quality brands. Like TD, I'm a big CZ fan and should look for a conversion kit, too.

 

Same here. About 75% of my guns are used. A high quality firearm will last long after I need them.

Be it buying cars, tvs or guns, the key to success is research. Know what you want, their value and then be patient enough to wait for a good deal to come along. There are lots of great websites giving gun reviews. Buyer just type in the weapon they are researching with "review" into a search engine (e.g. Google) such as as "S&W MP45 Shield review":

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/09/jon-wayne-taylor/gun-review-smith-wesson-mp-45-shield/

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/9/1/range-time-with-the-sw-mp45-shield-pistol/

http://www.range365.com/mp45-shield-gun-review

 

Maybe we can agree on this topic if not Mid East issues.

I've either been shooting or teaching others to shoot for about 60 years using a variety of firearms while in & out of military service (.22 - .50 cal BMG) but I'm not familiar with the manufacturer of the pistol you've chosen.
It sounds like you've already bought the pistol & it looks fine as both a "starter gun" and a lifetime plinker.
It also will serve you well if and when you decide to move up to a 9mm or .40 cal. version of the same configuration made by either Taurus or Beretta.
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Assuming you've ruled out a .22 rifle, many people prefer a .22 cal. revolver as a starter gun because they're simpler to operate and slightly safer.
The reason I say "slightly safer" is because many beginners & even experienced shooters forget about the round that remains in the chamber even after the magazine has been removed and assume the pistol is empty.
So please, always check the chamber first especially before handling ANY semi-auto firearm.
Good luck & have fun

 

How many readers are familiar with the 7.62X25mm pistol round & why doesn't a modern firearm manufacturer make a pistol in that fine caliber.
It was considered among the very most powerful commercially made handgun rounds until the advent of the .357 magnum

 

no idea why not. lots of the ammo for it is corrosive From what I recall

 

Ammo/bullet selection are terrible, and unlike western 7.62, it uses a 0.311" bullet.

EDIT: It -can- use a .308" bullet, but accuracy suffers.

 

I am sure that would change if some big name makers started introducing them to the US market. we saw that happen with the 9x18 Mak. cartridge

 

Maybe. The guns and the ammo are more of a curiosity now than anything else.

 

Thanks,
Yes, there is a lot of corrosive stuff out there but Privi Partizan® is among those manufacturers who make N/C ammunition in both regular ball & JHP 85gr

 

I have bought many case lots of PP. their 10MM is the best combination of cost/quality on the market.

 

I've found that to be the case in other "obsolete" calibers: 7.62X54r, 6.5 Swiss etc.

Are you familiar with ATF's C&R (Curio & Relic) License that allows firearm collectors (i.e. anyone that can pass a background check) to buy older firearms through the mail, wholesale. Their list of "older" firearms includes a surprising variety of semi-auto pistols & rifles. The license is, I believe, $30- for 5 years. C&R License holders can frequently get ammo at discounted prices through the same wholesale outlets.

 

As it is currently, early AR-15 rifles produced by the Colt Manufacturing Company, are available for relic status due to being produced over fifty years ago.

 

M1 Garands as well.

 

The M1 Garand, however does not utilize a detachable box magazine.

 

True. But as soon as someone uses one to shoot up a school, the liberals won't care.

 

Thanks,
I'm surprised but, then again, there's little rhyme nor reason behind the BATF's reasoning.
BTW, I just read that an American company is making reproductions of the WW 2 German Stg-44 for a cool $1,700-

 

I liked the Makarov pistols C&R, once costing around $160 from J&G sales as well as the Nagant gas sealing revolver.

 

It's not that great, when you compare it to modern 9mm loadings. It shoots a 85-gr bullet at 1500 fps.

 

I'm not suggesting that it's the best defensive round out there and its desirability would depend on your intended target. However, it is ideal for penetration
Modern manufactured ammunition is milder than the surplus 7.62x25 which will defeat level 3 body armor

7.62 X 25 mm round defeats body armor"

 

In Australia our Police Force are armed.

I prefer they remain armed even though the threat is much less, I think guns have their police, in the hands of appropriately trained policemen and women.

 

And yet I can testify to the many well trained people
I had the privilege to help train, these fine citizens consistently performed better than their uniformed counterparts.

 

I would imagine that military Veterans were among your better students

 

It's interesting; in my experience military veterans (depending upon their MOS) tend to do fairly well when the training curriculum is about rifles. When it comes to pistols, however, some have difficulties at first; mainly because there are so few military specialities that require the use of a pistol, and military training with the sidearm is for the most part extremely rudimentary.

 

Not just training, qualification too. I fired expert the first time I'd ever fired an M1911A1, with almost no handgun experience.

 

You're right. In general, basic military experience alone stresses rifle training & sometimes pistol training. I've been shooting since before I was 10 years old and already proficient with both rifles & pistols when I went into the military.
My state (VA) only requires that you be a military veteran with a clean record for a CCW