How many members would like a firearms discussion area

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Would you like a firearms discussion area

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  1. rahl

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    actually Clinton was voted for, and received millions more votes than trump did. Trump was simply selected by the EC.
     
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    Meaning the electoral college voted against Hillary Clinton, rather than voting for Donald Trump. She was rejected, he won by default.
     
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    Amazing how many people would vote for a war-mongerer like Clinton. Beggars belief really.
     
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    Right. Americans wanted and voted for Clinton. The EC selected trump, against the will of the American people.
     
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    Outside the idiotic parameters of a Cohen video, the reality is that there is a documented phenomenon called "tachypsychia" (literally "slow mind"), also called "time dilation", in which a person in the midst of a life-or-death situation experiences a perception of slow motion. The adrenaline response drives the brain to process critical information at optimum speed.

    One of my first instructors in tactical defense talked about this; saying some people describe the "nightmarish" sensation of having their movements feel incredibly sluggish and slow, and how that sensation could increase the terror one felt in a crisis situation. He taught us to not fear that sensation, but to use it to our advantage; because even though we might feel like we were moving "in slow motion" we were in actuality moving faster than we might ever have moved before. Thus we could focus on the fundamentals of our training and not rush our actions. That understanding saved the lives of more than one student; we were able to focus on taking an extra heartbeat to deliver a precise blow, or to acquire a more perfect sight picture and give a more consistent press of the trigger that our defensive fire went where it needed to go instead of rushing the shot and missing.

    I don't know about owls or children; I just know that I've been able to "see in slow motion" when it mattered.
     
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    Sorry chum, that won't wash. You celebrated a group who has a leading member that willingly said cretinous comment. Doesn't this really show how the ideology cuts out intellectual comment?
     
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    Your posts are nothing but misinformation, fabrications, and irrational hate. Plain and simple, you don't know what you're talking about. Period. End of story.
     
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    False on every level, and such nonsense demonstrates abject ignorance of how the system works.

    The whole point of the Electoral College system is to make sure every state has a voice in national elections; just one of the checks and balances that prevent pure democracy. Every state is presented with electors to the electoral college based on their population. Every state holds its own election for President, and the winner of that election is supposed to get that state's electoral votes, which then are tallied to determine the victor of the election. This system means that high population states such as California, or New York, have a lot of pull in the outcome of Presidential elections, but not enough to make lower population states irrelevant. Thus if enough smaller states vote along the same path they can swing the election the other way. This enlightened system protects the rights of all Americans regardless of where they live, because it prevents overpopulated areas such as California from dictating to the rest of the nation.

    I detest Trump, but outright loathe Clinton. I was perfectly happy to see her fall.. as were a lot of Democrats, by the way. Many people did not vote for Clinton or Trump because they "wanted" to, but because they hated one of them more than the other so they held their noses and voted for them anyway. Frankly, if the ballot had "none of the above" on it I think "None of the Above" would have won the election hands down.

    The Electoral College did not "select" Donald Trump "against the will of the American people"; the Electoral College prevented an overpopulated near-commune of extremist leftists confined to about a combined 1000 square mile swath of America from dictating to the entirety of the rest of America, and properly voted as the elections of each state dictated they do; as the Constitution outlined.
     
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    I don't give a damn whether you think it will or won't "wash", Bubba. Your opinion doesn't wash 99.9% of the time as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    uh, it is a mathematically documented fact of reality that Clinton received millions more votes than trump did.

    Strawman. I never said the popular vote elects the president. I quite clearly said the EC selects the president.
     
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    You obviously set your bar very low. One of your "leaders" can be cretinous and you just don't give a toss
     
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    Which in our Republican system means diddly. You said "Americans wanted and voted for Clinton" and that the EC confirmed Trump's election "against the will of the American people." Plain and simple, both statements are false.

    "Strawman" my fuzzy fanny. The only strawman here is the one you just vomited onto the table.
     
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    You obviously don't know what you're talking about and don't care to. All political animals are "cretinous" at different times, and all of them say and do stupid things in public on a regular basis.

    What I don't give a toss about is you and your cretinous, dishonest opinions.
     
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    Not when morons claim "americans" voted for trump over Clinton. THat is demonstrably false.

    and again, it is a mathematically demonstrable fact of reality, that Clinton received millions more votes than trump. Trump was selected by the EC, against the wishes of the American people.


    ah, I see what the problem is. You don't know what a strawman is. Here, let me help you. A strawman is an argument you make up, and attribute to someone else so you can defeat that argument, instead of the one actually presented. You made up a position that I hold, and argued against it. That is a strawman.

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    I'm not ideological limited. And, when a politician is cretinous, I distance myself from their stupidity. You don't. The ideology clearly has a double victim here!
     
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    I never said Americans voted for Trump over Clinton. Neither one of them was desirable to the American people and most Americans voted against one rather than for the other.

    Which under our republican form of government means exactly nothing. Clinton did not win enough state elections to secure herself the Electoral College votes to win the Presidency. If not for the states that unconstitutionally split their electors, Trump's Electoral College win would have been an utter rout.

    False. Again.

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    Thanks for the laugh.

    You are one of the most ideologically limited people on this forum.
     
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    I'm not sure where you are getting lost here. The American people voted for Clinton, over trump. Trump was selected by the EC, against the will of the people.



    so you apparently don't know what strawman means, lol
     
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    Sorry, but reality is reality. American preferred Clinton, over trump by millions of votes.
     
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    What ideology is that then? :)
     
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    Surprised as a Republican supporter of Trump, you’re avatar doesn’t have a hammer and sickle.
     
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    Republicans value unoccupied land. If they had their way, citizens would be allotted one vote for every acre they owned. That makes sense if you’re a bigot.
     
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    Wrong yet again; based in your obvious inability to comprehend how our system works or why. We are not a democracy, and the popular vote is not relevant to the outcome. The outcomes of the elections in each of the states is what mattered, and Clinton did NOT win enough states to get the electoral votes she needed. That's the fact, plain and simple, so railing about the popular vote gets you nowhere.

    Two candidates, neither of them desirable to the majority of the people, were put forth by the two political parties, through astonishingly corrupt machinations. More Americans chose not to vote at all rather than vote for either candidate. Think about that. In the end, the majority of those who did vote did not vote FOR one candidate so much as AGAINST the other. Most of the voters who voted for Trump did NOT vote for him because they liked him but because they were voting against the status quo of politics-as-usual that Hillary Clinton represented.

    No, that's your delusion; but I recognize you are not intellectually equipped to comprehend that.
     
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    Wow. You're so incapable of comprehending fact that you have missed my clearly stated dislike of Trump as well as my disgust over both political parties. It is no wonder you can't comprehend the facts of anything when you can't even comprehend that someone you are in an exchange with doesn't fit in the pigeonhole you're trying to cram them into.

    That is one big load of self-serving and hate-filled crap you just served up. You calling anyone a "bigot" is the height of irony and hypocrisy.
     

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