How many members would like a firearms discussion area

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Turtledude, Aug 21, 2015.

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Would you like a firearms discussion area

  1. YES

    85.8%
  2. NO

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  1. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    Legal gun owners do not have a valid point to violate the Constitution to try to keep guns out of the hands of felons.

    We don't even enforce the laws against felons and guns now.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a jolly well thought out reason why we don't need a kiss chase sub-forum.
     
  3. dagosa

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    There are no federal regulations that allow enforcement in preventing felons from getting guns through secondary gun sales. The federal Govt. is prevented from using the background system in secondary gun sales.
     
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    Oh, you’re a constitutional lawyer ? You think anyone should be able to buy any gun at anytime. Your solution is to regulate FFL dealers but not private gun owners. Once they get their gun legally, you think that automatically entitles them to distribute their weapons to anyone, anywhere and at anytime.
    As a responsible gun owner, I’m for regulating ALL sales. You’re not. You’re irresponsible. There are NO PROVISIONS in the federal laws that allow for regulating private gun sales, except for a few types of weapons.. just the fact that these have been highly successful in keeping these guns out the hands of criminals, tells anyone with half a brain, it works. Don’t tell us differently.
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Figures, anti 2A and now anti 1A. Any old good reason will do. I believe the inbreeding on the island has taken its toll.

    Again, who told you we wanted to be Euro trash or Aussie trash? You and your country must be so miserable that your only alternative is to join forums and insist others achieve your misery.


    Now, off to Pikes Peak for morning fishing and some open range target shooting on the way back.
    Need to sight in my new scope.

    Like I said, get busy Reiver, your bitching and pissing yourself only helps in our promoting a beatiful sport that is at the very foundation-culture of our Nation.

    Your mouth is a gift.
     
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    You could be way more efficient in your flounce. Just saying.
     
  7. Xenamnes

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    Prove that federal firearm-related restrictions are indeed weak, and are indeed in need of bolstering by local state firearm-related restrictions.

    No one has claimed such other than yourself.

    Then the argument being presented on the part of yourself, is that the second amendment is not absolute, because due process has actually been utilized with regards to those who cannot and will not abide by the rules of society?

    Prove the supposed criminal intent on the part of the NRA that is being referred to by yourself.
     
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    Refrain from commenting further on matters that are beyond the understanding of yourself.

    Which is irrelevant. Once the charge is vacated, or the conviction is overturned, legally the crime was not committed, and thus the individual in question is no longer a felon.

    Get over it.
     
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    And such background checks are easily violated and subverted by the illegal straw purchase process. Therefore the background check system is doing no good at all. Even if it were extended to private sales, it would continue to be subverted with ease, and demonstrate its utter uselessness.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since I'm a blacksmith with literally tons of steel and lucky enough to have a target range by my blacksmith shop, I can make & repair a wide range of targets.
    Thanks for the advice.
     
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    The gun banners' dishonesty is so blatant it's hilarious. Oliver North's convictions were vacated as if they never were. Legally, his past convictions don't exist.

    The NRA has done more to pursue stronger prosecution with greater penalties for felons in possession of firearms than any other organization.

    Spare me your gun hater's propaganda.
     
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    "The most corrupt administration"???? Oh, the laughable irony! The Obama administration ran more guns and contributed directly to the deaths of American law enforcement officers in doing so.

    BOOM. There you have it. A "gun owner" attacking a Constitutional right and revealing his true face.
     
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    Indeed. If the barrel does its job, that ammo will shoot 1-1.5 MOA.
     
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    My DCM upper shoots best w/ 69gr SMKs - what a surprise.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Then there are the other factors... the trigger, sights/optics, and ultimately the shooter...
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Curios, what twist rate 1:9 or 8 or 7?
     
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    Sure. Most rifles shoot better than the person behind the trigger.
     
  18. TOG 6

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    1:7 stainless. Also shoots 80 SMK/VLDs well, but you can't load them to magazine depth.
     
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    Yep, from my observations, a twist rate in the 1:7 or 1:8 range stablizes a heavier/longer bullet well. Many years ago (early 70’s) when I was providing varmit eradication services, I used a savage bolt action .224 and if memory serves, it had a 22” , floated barrel with a 1:7 twist and I am pretty sure I loaded to shoot 77gr bullets... great gun, later rebarreled for the 22-4000 (interesting round). I hear interesting things about the Valkyrie but I have yet to play with a gun chambering the round.
     
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    Ah, the boutique calibers.
    If you can't do it with .223, a few more FPS won't help you.
     
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    Those were the days before The AR and the .223 had become popular on the market and combined with putting myself through college partially funded with subsistence hunting and my small varmit eradication business, I had a growing fascination with guns, cartridge performance, ballistics, etc. that became almost obsessive. I accumulated a large collection of guns through estate sales, inheritance, gifts, etc. and spent endless hours experimenting. I still do quite a bit, though not as obsessively as when I was younger. BTW, the 22-4000 (case a necked down .303) was pretty interesting, but I don’t remember the loads I developed and no longer have my logs for that platform, but was very accurate and wind resistant.
     
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    If you want to shoot 1000 yards, it's nice stay supersonic out that far. The high BC of the Valkyrie is conducive to that.
     
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    An NRA lackey who thinks all gun owners want convicted felons, kids and the mentally deranged to have free access to guns in secondary sales. You live in a fantasy world where your manhood amounts to portraying yourself as an internet tough guy by supporting the criminal NRA and its support of lunatic ideas. Is Bubba the best you can do ?
     
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    You think the second amendment is absolute ? You really aren’t that smart.
     
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    I’m sure that was in line with the NRA which has a history of working to restore gun rights to convicted felons.

    That the NRA is fine that Ollie was a convicted felon.....is enough.
     
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