How many of you basically consider yourselves ex-Republicans?

It's a simple question.

I'll never vote for a Democrat (I seriously doubt it anyway), but all the Republicans are offering are tax breaks for billion dollar corporations, aggressive invasions of the Middle East, and the same Statistic political-infrastructure as the far left. Don't really see the incentive to waste the gas going to the voting booth, as I'm not a billion dollar corporation, an Israeli-sycophant, or an American statist, so I sat home and will probably just continue to do so, removing myself from the American political process.

At least the Democratic base gets out of their politicians what they want. We always get stuck feeling like we're voting for some worm just to keep the Democrat out of office.
Seems like that ship sailed for the Republican party in the 2012 Presidential election, when millions of people just sat home and let Obama take it instead of pulling the lever for Romney the liberal.

So is former Republican voters just staying home going to be the new decisive trend in American politics until the baby-boomer generation passes on into the next world?
How many of you are former Republican voters who just plan to continue sitting at home since you're not being represented beyond lip service anyway?

 

Either that or American Conservatives could leave christ in the church like the Progressive-Leftist keeps suggesting, so they can free their minds morally to give the leftroaches what they deserve.

 

I was voting "Republican", until I saw indications that they were leaning too far "Right"; and my suspicions were correct, they went full-crazy-conservative; you NEVER GO FULL RIGHT. (That is because you stop hearing what people want, and start creating in your mind what you 'think' they need.)

I gave them up, almost 25 years ago.

 

I voted Libertarian most of my adult life, but as I got older I got tired of charging windmills and became a Republican in order to work for possible change, rather than the imaginary never-gonna-happen type. However we are fast reaching the point of no return, and the only purpose of an opposition party to the Political/Media/Academic Establishment represented in Washington by the Democratic Party is to slow down, not stop or reverse, the slide into decline. So I assume at the point that I determine that it's hopeless, I will abandon the Republican Party and just find a party to vote for that represents what I believe, with no reason to compromise since there is no hope of getting what I want out of the political system anyway.

 

GWB, GHWB, Dole, McLame, Romney- yeah on fire lunatic right fringe.

I love the left when they perpetuate the BS memo. You were a republican like Colon Puke was. Next.

 

This is what i mean Pennywise. We are already accused of being to the far right. I say we go for it. The Progressive-Left keep begging for it. We should show them how weak they really are in the face of conservative men and women.

 

The degree to which "Americans" reject/denounce racism, will very likely be directionally proportional to the levels of progress and success this nation enjoys going forward.

Those who want to live in the past, will pay a serious price in their effort to do so.

 

Exactly. They want far right, they can have it. May as well live up to all the BS hype.

It's a game of semantics that the left scumbags play like Mozart at his finest moment. Unfortunately, it works because the masses of asses in the Idiocracy that is the state of society today. Say "extremist" enough times and it makes the top of the hour news on the Top 40 stations, and that's all the average puke knows.

But yup, I say we give what they claim we are. Give the conservative base a real choice for once since Reagan was around.

 

The key to the situation is very simple. The Tea Party movement is really preaching to the converted. In doing so they are alienating centrist Republicans, and swinging voters. Roughly 3 million less votes were cast in 2012 compared to 2008. The Democrats shed 3.5 million votes and the Republicans picked up only 1.1 million votes.

The Republicans need to figure out exactly why they didn't pick up those missing 2.4 million votes

 

Im far too young to have experienced the reagan years. People my age swallow the leftist filth like theyre pornstars. But they arent hardened and dont fully understand why. When tested, you leave them uneasy doubting themselves for days or weeks even.

 

The results from the Amnesty bill will determine if I'm going to be supporting the Republicans or not. If the bill passes in anyway, shape or form then I'm not voting Republican ever again. I'm not voting Democrat though just to throw that out there. I'd rather not vote or vote third party.

I think when the Republican party dies off (yes I said when) another party will replace it that represents the old republican constituent. We're a large voting bloc and we're not something that can just be ignored so there will be significant representation for us in washington in one way or another.

I'm hoping the Libertarian party is the replacement for the Republicans because I strongly believe the libertarians are the only ideology that has a fighting chance of destroying the progressive disease that's gripped the west.

 

I certainly haven't given up on the GOP because doing so means adding to the prob by voting Dem or throwing away my vote on a 3rd can't win candidate.

I've increased my donation to the Republicans and become more active in shaping future party platforms. Just last wk I completed a 4 page survey asking what I think about a variety of issues. The first question, "Would you like to see the party put more or less emphasis on social issues?"

The way I see it, you've got two choices... sit back and wring your hands or get involved to change things. Its not like the GOP doesn't know it's time to make some major changes.

 

The degree of wholesale ignorance today is depressing. Idocracy is already here, just not quite as exciting as the movie, but make no mistake we are living it.

I don't know if it is possible to introduce liberty and freedom en masse to a citizenry that cannot even tell you the branches of government, how many SCOTUS justices there are, or how a bill becomes law, but they can tell you what Snookie likes to eat and how many Kardashian's brains you can fit in a thimble.

 

I feel like you do. The socialists rob the government and rip off everybody who pays taxes. The Republicans have turned into RINOs and nearly all of them are like both the Bush's, McCain, and Romney. The isn't a true conservative in the whole damn bunch of them. I'm just so sick of all the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) in both political parties, but if you vote for a third party you are definitely throwing your vote away.

 

Then get out there and turn out a decent candidate from your primary. Work to get good republicans in county office where there careers will go further. Tell your REC members we don't need moderation, we need conservatives with conviction. You don't quit the team though. Too many have an we don't have enough limited government conservatives left. That is why you get RINOS.

For the record though, if you want a business man to get this country back on track with a record of honest and fair dealing, mitt Romney was your guy. He has had economic success as politician, a civic leader, and as a businessman. Obama has never had an economic success in his lifetime. It seemed like it would be a no brainer, but unfortunately the no brainers showed up en masse.

 

That's kind of how I feel too, as far as the Amnesty bill goes. The only difference is that I would maintain my Republican registration until I get a chance to primary or vote against those Republicans who voted for it; particularly Marco Rubio, who is my Senator. I wrote him a letter expressing my displeasure at his lying about his position on amnesty and I want to make sure that politicians who voted for amnesty against the wishes of their constituents at least don't get re-elected.

As for the Libertarians, they'll never be a major party or have a major influence. As the country becomes more statist, they'll matter even less.

 

Many libertarians are even further left than Democrats are on the issue of borders. They believe in "the free flow of labor" and "letting the market decide which immigrants we should have". Having a state set their own borders and enforcing immigration laws seems too "fascist" and "statist" for them.

Though, to be fair, there seems to be a wide spectrum of belief on this issue amongst libertarians. Some want the border closed, some want it eliminated.

 

Ah, but that's why the Republicans lost! In the past, when we've had bad economic times, the country wanted to get the economy on it's feet. The 2012 election was the first one that I'm aware of in which people thought income inequality was a bigger issue than unemployment and economic growth. The public wasn't interested in getting the economy back on it's feet, they just wanted to make sure they got a fairer distribution of what was left, and correctly figured that Obama was the better guy to deliver them their piece of the pie than Romney, who seemed more interested in getting the economy going again. I'm afraid that is too abstract a concept for the contemporary voter.

 

In fairness, Rubio has had the same position on immigration as he did when he was in the Florida house.

Populist voting patterns aside, i am generally for immigration. In fact I think America she actively try to brain drain the rest of the world, and attract its hardest working laborers. I am just against the welfare state. Pay a fine and sign up for taxes is fine with me for illegals to pay their debt to society. Just have to be Ineligible for welfare, which is something they are trying, I know .... I know....

 

Not if we throw out the Republicans and throw our votes behind the Libertarians.

The libertarians are the biggest threat to the establishment because it's a radical ideology and has nothing in common with the current paradigm. As it stands now, the republicans and the democrats are the same people the only difference between the two are opposing views on morality (gay marriage, abortion etc.)

Libertarianism IMO throws a wrench in the whole system and paves the way for some radical change and that's something the U.S. desperately needs right now.

 

There's different forms of libertarianism. The ones who advocate no borders are minarchist if I'm not mistaken and I'm pretty sure most of the libertarians in washington right now, rand paul for example, are more akin to conservatism than they are anarchism.

 

Never thougt of it that way, but you are right. That is scary if we have come to that change in this country.

 

Rubio ran as anti-Amnesty when he ran for the Senate.

 

Really? Maybe he flip flopped and back again. I know he voted against the Internet sales tax, he is OK in my book. Like I said, I am pro immigration so it doesn't really bother me. I am an economic libertarian more then a protectionist. The welfare state thing though screws up the immigration debate.

 

I disagree, basically for the reasons that Brewskier mentioned. Libertarians are now standing with statists like Chuck Schumer because they are pro amnesty. That doesn't sound like they are threatening the establishment to me. In fact, they are ensuring the establishments survival and dooming their own. For different reasons for sure, but the long term results will be closer to what Schumer wants and won't resemble anything that libertarians want.

Libertarians think they are importing 11 million free market entrepreneurs, instead of 11 million welfare-statist voters. We already know the answer based on the 1986 amnesty. An ideology that has a built in suicide button installed doesn't have a long term future.