How Many people, at a Minimum, would it take to carry 9/11 Inside job?

Funny thing, the Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) is one of the silliest theories I ever heard, a fairy tale made for children. It goes like this:

[video=youtube;yuC_4mGTs98]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98[/video]

 

Mark Roberts once put this list together, for the "mainstream" theory... once you start dealing with no-planes/fake victims etc the list grows exponentially..

"There's no way of putting a number to it: many thousands of people from hundreds of agencies and organizations were involved (in several countries). But here's a start:


1,200 people who worked the flight 93 crash scene
40,000 people who worked the piles at Ground Zero
55 FBI Evidence Response Teams at Fresh Kills in New York
7,000+ FBI Agents
8,000+ people who worked the scene at the Pentagon
ACE Bermuda Insurance
Ace Elevators
AEMC Construction
AIG Insurance
Air Traffic Control System Command Center in Washington
Alexandria VA Fire & Rescue
Allianz Global Risks
American Airlines
American Concrete Institute
American Institute of Steel Construction
American Red Cross
Applied Biosystems Inc.
Applied Research Associates
Arlington County Emergency Medical Services
Arlington County Fire Department
Arlington County Sheriff's Department
Arlington VA Police Department
Armed Forces Institute of Pathology
Armed Forces Institute of Technology Federal Advisory Committee
ARUP USA
Atlantic Heydt Inc.
BBC
Bechtel
Berlin Fire Department
Big Apple Wrecking
Blanford & Co.
Bode Technology Group
Bovis Inc.
Building and Construction Trades Council
Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms
C-130H crew in D.C. & Shanksville
Cal Berkeley Engineering Dept.
California Incident Management Team
Carter Burgess Engineering
Celera Genomics
Centers for Disease Control
Central City Fire Department
Central Intelligence Agency
Cleveland Airport control tower
Columbia University Department of Civil Engineering and Engineering Mechanics
Congressional Joint Intelligence Committee
Consolidated Edison Company
Construction Technologies Laboratory
Controlled Demolitions Inc.
Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat
Counterterrorism and Security Group
CTL Engineering
D.H. Griffin Wrecking Co. Inc.
DeSimone Consulting Engineers
Dewhurst MacFarlane &Partners
DiSalvo Ericson Engineering
District of Columbia Fire & Rescue
DOD Honor Guard, Pentagon
D'Onofrio Construction
E-4B National Airborne Operations Center crews
Edwards and Kelcey Engineering
Engineering Systems, Inc.
Environmental protection Agency
Exponent Failure Analysis Associates
EYP Mission CriticalFacilities
Fairfax County Fire & Rescue
Falcon 20 crew in PA
Family members who received calls from victims on the planes
FBI Evidence Recovery Teams
Federal Aviation Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Federal Emergency Management Agency
Federal Insurance Co.
FEMA 68-Person Urban Search and Rescue Teams: Arizona Task Force 1, California Task Force 1, California Task Force 3, California Task Force 7, Colorado Task Force 1, Fairfax Task Force 1, Florida Task Force 1, Florida Task Force 2, Maryland Task Force 1, Massachusetts Task Force 1, Metro Dade/Miami, Nebraska Task Force 1, New Mexico Task Force 1, New York Task Force 1, Pennsylvania Task Force 1, Tennessee Task Force 1, Texas Task Force 1, Utah Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 2, Washington Task Force 1
FEMA Disaster Field Office
FEMA Emergency Response Team
FEMA Urban Search and Rescue Incident Support Team-Advanced 3
Fire Department of New York
Fort Myer Fire Department
Fourteen teams of search dogs from Oregon
French Urban Search & Rescue Task Force
Friedens Volunteer Fire Department
Gateway Demolition
Gene Code Forensics
Georgia Tech Engineering Dept.
Gilsanz Murray Steficek LLP
GMAC Financing
Goldstein Associates Consulting Engineers
Guy Nordenson Associates
HAKS Engineers
Hampton-Clarke Inc.
HHS National Medical Response Team
HLW International Engineering
Hooversville Rescue Squad.
Hooversville Volunteer Fire Department
Hoy Structural Services
Hughes Associates, Inc
Hugo Neu Schnitzer East
hundreds of ironworkers, some of whom built the WTC
Hundreds of New York City Police Department Detectives
Industrial Risk Insurers
Institute for Civil Infrastructure Systems
International Association of Fire Chiefs
International Union of Operating Engineers Locals 14 & 15
J.R. Harris & Company
Karl Koch Steel Consulting Inc.
KCE Structural Engineers
Koch Skanska
Koutsoubis, Alonso Associates
Laboratory Corp. of America
Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
Leslie E. Robertson Associates
LIRo Engineering
Listie Volunteer Fire Company
Lockwood Consulting
M.G. McLaren Engineering
Masonry Society
Mazzocchi Wrecking Inc.
Metal Management Northeast
Metropolitan Airport Authority Fire Unit
Miami-Dade Urban Search & Rescue
Military District of Washington Search & Rescue Team
Montgomery County Fire & Rescue
Mueser Rutledge Consulting Engineers
Murray Engineering
Myriad Genetic Laboratories Inc.
National Center for Biotechnology Informatics
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
National Council of Structural Engineers Associations
National Disaster Medical System
National Emergency Numbering Association
National Fire Protection Association
National Guard in D.C., New York, and Pennsylvania
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
National Institutes of Health Human Genome Research Institute
National Law Enforcement and Security Institute
National Military Command Center
National Reconnaissance Office
National Response Center
National Science Foundation Division of Civil and Mechanical Systems
National Security Agency
National Transportation Safety Board
National Wrecking
Natural Hazards Research and Applications Information Center
New Jersey State Police
New York City Department of Buildings WTC Task Force
New York City Department of Design and Construction
New York City Department of Environmental Protection
New York City Office of Emergency Management
New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
New York City Police Department Aviation Unit
New York City Police Department Emergency Services Unit
New York Daily News
New York Flight Control Center
New York Newsday
New York Port Authority Construction Board
New York Port Authority Police
New York State Emergency Management Office
New York State Police Forensic Services
New York Times
North American Aerospace Defense Command
Northeast Air Defense Sector Commanders and crew
Numerous bomb-sniffing dogs
Numerous Forensic Anthropologists
Numerous Forensic Dentists
Numerous Forensic Pathologists
Numerous Forensic Radiologists
NuStats
Occupational Safety and Health Administration
Office of Emergency Preparedness
Office of Strategic Services
Orchid Cellmark
Parsons Brinckerhoff Engineering
Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection
Pennsylvania Department of Health and Human Services
Pennsylvania Region 13 Metropolitan Medical Response Group
Pennsylvania State Funeral Directors Association
Pennsylvania State Police
Pentagon Defense Protective Service
Pentagon Helicopter Crash Response Team
Pentagon Medical Staff
Pentagon Renovation Team
Phillips & Jordan, Inc.
Port of New York and New Jersey Authority
Pro-Safety Services
Protec
Public Entity Risk Institute
Purdue University Engineering Dept.
Robert Silman Associates Structural Engineers
Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc
Rosenwasser/Grossman Consulting Engineers
Royal SunAlliance/Royal Indemnity
SACE Prime Power Assessment Teams
SACE Structural Safety Engineers and Debris Planning and Response Teams
Salvation Army Disaster Services
several EPA Hazmat Teams
several FBI Hazmat Teams
several Federal Disaster Medical Assistance Teams
several Federal Disaster Mortuary (DMORT) Teams
Severud Associates Consulting Engineers
Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company
Silverstein Properties
Simpson Gumpertz & Heger Engineers
Skidmore, Owings & Merrill LLP
Skilling Ward Magnusson Barkshire
Society of Fire Protection Engineers
Somerset Ambulance Association
Somerset County Coroner's Office
Somerset County Emergency Management Agency
Somerset Volunteer Fire Department
St. Paul/Travelers Insurance
State of Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency
Stoystown Volunteer Fire Company
Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers (SEI/ASCE)
Structural Engineers Association of New York
Superstructures Engineering
Swiss Re America Insurance
Telephone operators who took calls from passengers in the hijacked planes
Teng & Associates
Thornton-Tomasetti Group, Inc.
TIG Insurance
Tokio Marine & Fire
Transportation Safety Administration
Tully Construction
Twin City Fire Insurance
Tylk Gustafson Reckers Wilson Andrews Engineering
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Underwriters Laboratories
Union Wrecking
United Airlines
United States Air National Guard
United States Fire Administration
United States Secret Service
United Steelworkers of America
University of Sheffield Fire Engineering Research
US Army Reserves of Virginia Beach Fairfax County and Montgomery County
US Army’s Communications-Electronics Command
US Department of Defense
US Department of Justice
US Department of State
Virginia Beach Fire Department
Virginia Department of Emergency Management
Virginia State Police
Vollmer Associates Engineers
Washington Post
Weeks Marine
Weidlinger Associates
Weiskopf & Pickworth Engineering
Westmoreland County Emergency Management Agency
Whitney Contracting
Willis Group Holdings
WJE Structural Engineers
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
World Trade Center security staff
XL Insurance
Yonkers Contracting
York International
Zacharias Moussaoui prosecution team
Zurich Financial
Zurich Re Risk Engineering

Conspiracists: are these people liars, dupes, or shills?

Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, Ph.D., P.E.
Alan Rosa, P.E., S.E.
Allyn Kilsheimer, P.E.
Amit Bandyopadhyay, S.E.
Amy Zelson Mundorff
Anamaria Bonilla, S.E.
Andrew McConnell, S.E.
Andrew Mueller-Lust, S.E.
Andrew Pontecorvo, P.E.
Anthony Kirk US&R Structural Specialist
Anthony W. Chuliver, S.E.
Antoine E. Naaman, Ph.D.
Antranig M. Ouzoonian, P.E.
Arlan Dobson, FEMA Region 2 DAS
August Domel, Ph.D., S.E., P.E.
Bernie Denke US&R Structural Specialist
Bill Cote
Bill Coulbourne, P.E., S.E.
Bob Gray (I.U.O.E.)
Bonnie Manley, P.E., S.E.
Boris Hayda, P.E., S.E.
Brian Lyons
Brian McElhatten, S.E.
Brian Smith (Col.), Chief Deputy Medical Examiner, Dover AFB
Charles Hirsch, M.D.
Charles J. Carter, AISC
Charles Thornton, P.E.
Charlie Vitchers
Christopher E. Marrion, P.E.
Christopher M. Hewitt, AISC
Chuck Guardia, S.E.
D. Stanton Korista, P.E., S.E.
Dan Doyle (IW 40)
Dan Eschenasy, P.E., S.E.
Daniel A. Cuoco, P.E
Daniele Veneziano, P.E.
David Davidowitz, ConEd
David Hoy, S.E.
David Leach, USACE
David M. Parks, ME
David Peraza, P.E., S.E.
David Ranlet
David Schomburg
David Sharp, S.E.
David T. Biggs, P.E.
Dean Koutsoubis, S.E.
Dean Tills, P.E.
Delbert Boring, P.E.
Dennis Clark (IST)
Dennis Dirkmaat, Ph.D.
Dennis Mileti, Ph.D.
Dick Posthauer, S.E.
Donald Friedman, P.E.
Donald O. Dusenberry, P.E.
Ed McGinley, P.E.
Ed Plaugher, Chief, Arlington FD
Edward A. Flynn, Arlington Police Chief
Edward Depaola, S.E.
Edward M. DePaola, P.E.
Edward Stinnette, Chief, FCFD
Fahim Sadek, P.E., S.E.
Farid Alfawakhiri Ph.D.
FDNY Battalion Chief Frank Vallebuono
FDNY Captain Anthony Varriale
FDNY Chief Frank Cruthers
FDNY Chief Frank Fellini
FDNY Chief Joseph Callan
FDNY Chief of Operations Daniel Nigro
FDNY Deputy Chief Nick Visconti
FDNY Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
FDNY Firefighter Sam Melisi
Francis J. Lombardi, P.E.
Frank Gayle, Sc.D
Gary Keith, V.P. NFPA
Gary Steficek, S.E.
Gary Suson
Gary Tokle, Asst. VP, NFPA
George Tamaro, P.E., S.E.
Gerald Haynes, P.E.
Gerald Wellman US&R Structural Specialist
Guy Colonna, P.E., NFPA
Guylene Proulx, Ph.D.
H.S. Lew, P.E., S.E.
Harold E. Nelson, P.E., FSFP.E.
Harry Martin, AISC
J. David Frost, Ph.D., P.E.
Jack Brown Deputy Chief Loudoun County (Va.) Fire Rescue Department
Jack Messagno
James A. Rossberg, P.E.
James Chastain US&R Structural Specialist
James H. Fahey, S.E.
James Lord, FSFP.E.
James Milke, Ph.D., P.E.
Jan Szumanski, IUOE
Jason Averill, FSFP.E.
Jeffrey Hartman, S.E.
Jim Abadie
Joel Meyerowitz
John Gross, Ph.D., P.E.
John Hodgens, FDNY (ret.)
John J. Zils, P.E., S.E.
John L. Gross, Ph.D., P.E.
John Lekstutis, P.E.
John M. Hanson, Ph.D, P.E.
John McArdle NYPD/ESU (DTC)
John Moran, NYPD/ESU (NTC)
John O'Connell
John Odermatt (NYC OEM)
John Ruddy, P.E., S.E.
John Ryan, PAPD
John W. Fisher, P.E.
Jon Magnusson, P.E., S.E.
Jonathan Barnett, Ph.D
Joo-Eun Lee P.E., S.E.
Joseph C. Gehlen, P.E., S.E.
Jozef Van Dyck, P.E.
Juan Paulo Morla, S.E.
Karl Koch III
Kaspar Willam, P.E., S.E.
Kenneth Holden
Kent Watts
Kevin Malley, FDNY (ret.)
Kevin Terry, S.E.
Kurt Gustafson, P.E., S.E.
Larry Keating (IW 40)
Lawrence C. Bank, Ph.D., P.E.
Lawrence Griffis, P.E.
Leo J. Titus, P.E.
Leonard M. Joseph, P.E.
Leslie E. Robertson, P.E., S.E.
Long T. Phan, Ph.D., P.E.
Lou Mendes, P.E., S.E.
Louis Errichiello, S.E.
Manny Velivasakis, P.E.
Mark Blair
Mark Kucera, USACE
Mark Tamaro, P.E
Mark Volpe, IW 40
Marty Corcoran
Matthew G. Yerkey, P.E., S.E.
Merle E. Brander, P.E.
Mete A. Sozen, Ph.D., S.E.
Michael Burton, P.E.
Michael Dallal
Michael Hessheimer, S.E.
Michael Tylk, P.E., S.E.
Mike Banker, FDNY Capt. (SOC)
Mike Marscio, P.E.
Miroslav Sulc,, P.E., S.E.
Mohammed Ettouney
Morgan Hurley, FSFP.E.
Nestor Iwankiw, Ph.D., P.E.
Nick Carcich
Norman Groner, Ph.D.
Pablo Lopez, P.E., S.E.
Paul A. Bosela, Ph.D., P.E.
Paul F. Mlakar, Ph.D., P.E.
Paul Sledzik
Paul Tertell, P.E.
Pete Bakersky
Peter Chipchase, S.E.
Peter Rinaldi, P.E.
Rajani Nair, S.E.
Ramon Gilsanz, P.E., S.E
Randy Lawson
Raul Maestre, P.E., S.E.
Raymond F. Messer, P.E.
Reidar Bjorhovde, Ph.D., P.E
Richard Bukowski P.E., FSFP.E.
Richard G. Gewain, P.E., S.E.
Richard Gann, Ph.D.
Richard Garlock, P.E., S.E.
Richard Kahler US&R Structural Specialist
Robert C. Sinn, P.E., S.E.
Robert F. Duval (NFPA)
Robert Frances US&R Structural Specialist
Robert J. McNamara, P.E., S.E.
Robert Ratay, Ph.D., P.E., S.E.
Robert Shaler, M.D.
Robert Smilowitz, Ph.D., P.E
Robert Solomon, P.E.
Robert Wills, AISC
Ronald Hamburger, P.E., S.E.
Ronald J. LaMere, P.E.
Ronald Rehm, Ph.D.
Ronald Spadafora, FDNY D.A.C
Ruben M. Zallen, P.E.
Russell "Rusty" Dodge Jr, Asst. Chief, Fort Belvoir FD
S. Shyam Sunder, P.E., S.E.
Saw-Teen See, P.E.
Shankar Nair. P.E., S.E.
Shawn Kelly, Arlington County Fire Marshal
Socrates Ioannides, P.E., S.E.
Sonny Scarff
Stan Murphy, P.E.
Stephen Cauffman
Steve Rasweiler, FDNY B.C. (SOC)
Stuart Foltz, P.E.
Terry Sullivan, Tully
Theodore Galambos, P.E.
Theodore Krauthammer, Ph.D., P.E.
Therese P. McAllister, Ph.D., P.E.
Thomas Hawkins Jr, Chief, AFD
Thomas Schlafly, AISC
Todd Ude, P.E., S.E.
Tom Scarangello, P.E.
Tom Stanton (IST)
Tony Beale, P.E.
Valentine Junker
Venkatesh Kodur, Ph.D., P.E.
Victor Hare, P.E.
Vincent Dunn, FDNY (ret.)
W. Gene Corley, Ph.D., P.E., S.E.
W. Lee Evey
Wallace Miller
William Baker, P.E., S.E
William Grosshandler, Ph.D., ME
William McGuire, P.E.
Willie Quinlan, IW
Zdenek Bazant, Ph.D., S.E.

9/11 Commission & Staff
Thomas H. Kean, Chair
Lee H. Hamilton, Vice Chair
Richard Ben-Veniste
Fred F. Fielding
Jamie S. Gorelick
Slade Gorton
Bob Kerrey
John F. Lehman
Timothy J. Roemer
James R. Thompson

Joanne Accolla
Alexis Albion
Scott Allan
John Azzarello
Caroline Barnes
Warren Bass
Ann Bennett
Mark Bittinger
Madeleine Blot
Antwion Blount
Geoff Brown
Daniel Byman
Dianna Campagna
Sam Caspersen
Melissa Coffey
Lance Cole
Marquittia Coleman
Marco Cordero
Raj De Counsel
George Delgrosso
Gerald L. Dillingham
Thomas Dowling
Steven Dunne
Thomas Eldridge
John Farmer
Alvin Felzenberg
Gordon England
Lorry Fenner
Susan Ginsburg
T. Graham Giusti
Nicole Grandrimo
Doug Greenburg
Barbara Grewe
Elinore Hartz
Len Hawley
Christine Healey
Karen Heitkotter
Walt Hempel
Michael Hurley
Dana Hyde
Michael Jacobson
Bonnie Jenkins
Reginald Johnson
William Johnstone
Stephanie Kaplan
Miles Kara
Janice Kephart-Roberts
Hyon Kim
Christopher Kojm
Katarzyna (Kasia) Kozaczuk
Gordon Lederman
Daniel Leopold
Sarah Linden
Douglas MacEachin
Daniel Marcus
Ernest May
James Miller
Kelly Moore
Charles Pereira
John Raidt
John Roth
Peter Rundlet
Lloyd Salvetti
Kevin Scheid
Kevin Shaeffer
Tracy Shycoff
Dietrich Snell
Jonathan Stull
Lisa Sullivan
John Tamm
Cate Taylor
Yoel Tobin
Emily Walker
Garth Wermter
Serena Wille
Philip Zelikow, Executive Director

The Congressional Joint Inquiry on 9/11
Senate Members
Bob Graham, D - Florida, Chairman
Richard C. Shelby, R - Alabama, Vice Chairman
Carl Levin
Jon Kyl
John D. Rockefeller
James M. Inhofe
Dianne Feinstein
Orrin Hatch
Ron Wyden
Pat Roberts
Richard J. Durbin,
Mike DeWine
EvanBayh
Fred Thompson
John Edwards
Richard Lugar
Barbara Mikulski
Al Cumming, Staff Director
William Duhnke, Minority Staff Director

House Members
Porter J. Goss, Chairman
Nancy Pelosi
Doug Bereuter
Sanford D. Bishop
Michael N. Castle,
Jane Harman
Sherwood L. Boehlert
Gary A. Condit
Jim Gibbons
Tim Roemer
Ray LaHood
Silvestre Reyes
Randy Cunningham
Leonard L. Boswell
Peter Hoekstra,
Collin C. Peterson
Richard Burr
Bud Cramer
Saxby Chambliss
Terry Everett
Timothy R. Sample, Staff Director
Michael W. Sheehy, Democratic Counsel

Staff
Eleanor Hill
Rick Cinquegrana
David Barton
Ann Bennett
Daniel Byman
Michael Davidson
George Ellard
Rahul Gupta
Kay Holt
John Ivicic
Michael Jacobson
Everette Jordan
Miles Kara
John Keefe
Thomas Kelley
Dana Lesemann
Patti Litman
Arthur Menna
Lewis Moon
Patricia Ravalgi
Alonzo Robertson
Robert Rosenwald
Michael Smith
Catherine Williams"

 

Be sure to check out the other side of the argument too.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
(1:55:25 time mark)

Painful Deceptions 911 Documentary by Eric Hufschmid Full Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jXfm2y5Ifw
(11:32 time mark)

 

Correct ... but not complete story!
They also take facts out of depending content and put them together with other things and create new "evidences", as well ignoring countering facts in general or blame them to be irrelevant, wrong and as fake.

3 Examples:
In this half book of report which should have given the proof about use of thermite at least ... they lack totally all the things which were normally in building and cause the traces found. One thing is for example the existence of Brome, which can only be because Thermite at least. Well ... with what were again these thousands of steel bars painted and gives them the reddish-brown color? Anti Rust color is it ... and looking on the content of this color as visible on every barrel of paint you can buy by your own, it contents Brome!

The Fire was and is always told not to be hot enough to melt these steel bars etc. Sure, it was not hot enough, but why the hack should or must it be so hot to melt steel? Fact is that temperature was hot enough to weak the steel to be softer and then they bent. There was an experiment done with bars and weight on it over a hole filled with Kerosene fuel etc. ... after 10 minutes the bars bent and weight on them felt into the fire below! Rating of these hardcore Truthers with academic grade: irrelevant!

It is still told that no Airline crashed into the Pentagon and all evidences showing that it was are ignored or disputed to be truth! They name these and that witnesses who confirm their claims, but blame everyone else of witness as not serious ... for example because working in Pentagon. However, aside many things at this case, the core question of "if it was no Airliner, what was it then?" is still unanswered and every trial, as for example missiles or UAV are still refuted with simple fact that no missile or Airliner is existing to cause same damage and same huge fuel explosion!
Usual reaction if you take them here on this point is "I have no idea, but I know that it was no airliner" ...

 

If there are any conmen present, one would be you.

Gage seeks the truth, at least as far as the WTC angle.

You seek to obscure the truth and promote the completely invalid official version of what really happened.

 

No, those who prepared the WTC buildings were not unknowing pawns, they were paid participants. You don't quite understand what "pawn" implies, but perhaps you've never played any chess.

The pawns in the FAA/NEADS interface did not know what was happening, though certainly there was at least one FAA supervisor type who knew enough to destroy some ATC tapes.

FBI agents in Pennsylvania tried to persuade Susan McIlwain to change her testimony regarding what type airplane she saw that morning. Others there convinced the coroner Mr. Miller to change his testimony, and he did.

Are those FBI agents innocent pawns? I don't think so.

Training exercises within government agencies prompt a certain mindset that lets all sorts of bizarre behavior occur.

 

Which ATC tapes do you claim were destroyed?

 

and how did these paid participants pull this off without anyone seeing suspicious activity? ... still nothing but silence ... you're delusional ...

 

ALL the people in my post, HAD to KNOW, Before, During, and/or After.
So you Disingenuously just picked only ONE group.
Dishonest 'reply.'
The Impossible cast of Thousands remains UNtouched.
(Bob0627, who gave you a 'like,' is welcome to Chime in, but he CANNOT... either)
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Obviously, I never had the opportunity to listen to them, so it's impossible to say with any accuracy what exactly was on the tapes.

But from the earliest days there was talk from other controllers present when it happened that with a lecture to all present, the tapes were destroyed.

 

With all due respect sir, your posts are borderline nonsensical, and will likely be fairly well ignored in the future. 15 years later, a person still defending the official story is grossly uninformed/misinformed and morbidly incurious. So much has been learned in these 15 years.....

 

Explain how I am recruiting people to a cause in bad faith, knowing it has no basis for reality and making money off them. I'll wait.

So you're saying this is not an accurate description of Gage's activities?

"Tax records show his "non profit" is his sole source of income, and it's strongly suspected he finds the conspiracy website 911blogger.com even though they beg for dollars, claiming they get no foundational funding. His "activism" is all based on the fraudulent Bentham paper, published by a vanity press, with a disgraced scientist(Steven Jones), who works closely with an Anti Semite(Bollyn)."


Please point out which parts are factually incorrect.

 

Recruiting people? I never said you are doing that.

I said that IF there are any conmen present (in or about this discussion), then YOU are one. That because you con those reading into considering that Gage is bad.

The downright silly part is you suggest he's getting rich, completely laughable, especially considering you have not produced any tax return from Gage to prove your ridiculous claim. Confidence man slinging bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is what it appears to be.

Gage has spoken truth to power, and those in power don't like it, naturally, because those in power created and sustain this magnificent deception. So does the mainstream media, and so do you.

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. True in the days of Socrates, and still true today.

Gage has clearly demonstrated the false and impossible details of the official story. Good for him. IMO, it would be a good thing indeed if peddling the truth could make a few dollars. God knows peddling deception and falsehoods makes a few dollars.

 

Do you understand what a conman or scam artist does and how they work?

No one has said he's getting rich. They've said he's using his non profit to pay for his living expenses, you know, instead of honest work. He's going this by lying to people so they give him money. That's a scam.

The tax returns:
http://www.guidestar.org/profile/26-1532493

http://ae911truth.info/wordpress/2010/ae911truth/75450/

"$75,450- Richard Gage’s salary in 2009 from Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. That’s according to the 2009 Form 990-EZ available right now at Guidestar.org, an online organization that helps track non-profits.

The total revenue for 2009 – $344,570. Salaries for Gage and others topped out at $107,417. That means salaries constitute 31% of AE911Truth’s expenses.

In other words, Richard Gage’s salary is 21% of all revenue received by AE911Truth in 2009."

http://ae911truth.info/wordpress/2010/ae911truth/ae911truth-2007-form-990-ez/

BTW: non profit returns are public records. You can access them yourself if you're interested.

He has done no such thing. His "work" is entirely based on the debunked Bentham Paper fraud.

 

Wih NO respesct Whatsoever:
Your last post was a Dishonest/Deluded evasion.
Virtually ALL the groups I mentioned/EVERYONE you claimed was an "unwitting pawn" Knew, or would have come to realize Afterwards.
YES or NO?
People who "unwittingly" made the PA crash site? [NOT] "unwittingly" planted Airline Debris at the Pentagon site AFTER the 'missile'? Etc x100?
Yet NOT a single one has come forward, or been outed.

You are the typical 9/11 Conspiracist: Unable to answer, or even be straightforward in discussion, nor with yourself.
ergo, most WILL end up having to put me on Ignore to maintain THEIR denial/delusion.
It's simply Not possible for any of you to debate someone who holds your feet to the fire/demands honest, non-evasive answers.
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$trillions for the MIC and other special interest. That's why the OCT myth has to be kept alive forever.

 

Having given financial support to AE911 for a number of years, I sure as hell hope Gage was being compensated for his time and effort. $107,000 is probably not enough IMO.

So for me, your "point" is utterly trivial.

I say again, his work has provided a great service to those of us who are NOT architects or engineers. He explains the technical failures of the official story, the complete failure of the story.

You might be gullible enough to believe that office fires on the 80th floor caused the destruction there, but I am not.

So far, your focus here is on an individual and group, while completely ignoring the facts that make the official story impossible.

 

FYI, I am thrilled to have no respect from a poster unable to spell the word properly.

However many people it took, a group of perps planned and executed the attacks. The number is academic and, 15 years later, irrelevant.

 

true ... 19 Arabs (almost 20) and their backers ... glad you finally see the light ...

 

Another DISHONEST/Nonresponsive 'reply.'
AGAIN, no matter How many Planned it.. virtually Everyone/Thousands would have realized Before, During, and Certainly AFTER, that they had played a part in it.
Thousands.
The PA Crash site 'Creators' didn't realize before/After?
Those who 'Shot a Missile' at the Pentagon knew Before and During.
Those who 'planted' Aircraft Parts at the Pentagon knew AT the time.
Those who 'faked' phone calls to loved from the Planes?
The Executioners of the 'real,'/'diverted', passengers?
Air Traffic Controllers of different Jurisdictions who followed the plane.. Lying?
Tapes from the ATC, fabricated by...?
The Disposers of the 'real' Airliner?
Witnesses?
And ON and ON.

It was IMPOSSIBLE, and NO ONE Here.. NO ONE.. Can answer how these thousands all were part of a plot.
Ergo, ALL of your posts and 95% of Bob0627's are whacky IMPOSSIBLE BS.
Including Bobo627's current string on the on the Impossible Pentagon venue.
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Only 95%? Which 5% are not then? (not really interested, just being rhetorical of course).

BTW, you think if you make the letters bigger it will make you sound more intelligent? Or perhaps more convincing? Juss askinn son.

 

Okay. You've just confirmed you live on disability, retirement or a trustfund. No one who actually has to work and pay bills thinks one hundred large is chump change.

That is why you will continue to be conned. And the only people you will be able to convince will be equally gullible and ineffectual.

He does nothing of the sort. He regurgitates talking points from Steven Jones fraudulent Bentham paper.

^^^^^^^^
Dunning Kruger Award Nominee 2016

That individual is the Last Great White Truther, who is considered the most credible representative of the "movement" by people like you. FFS Scott keeps linking to that damn thread with AE911Truth links in it. Given Gage is fleecing people for dollars and living off his "twoofer" lectures, it is perfectly fair to question his motives and methods.

 

Let's face it, there ain't no proof. Proof is what conspiracies and cover-ups are intended to eliminate. But I'll tell you what, give us each subpoena power and a waterboard and I'll get a whole lot closer to the truth than you will.

You believe what you want to believe, I'll believe what I want to believe. Mmm-kay???

 

We were all conned on 11 September 2001. Some of us eventually realized it, others still have not figured it out all these years later.

IMO, a person who still believes the official story WANTS to believe the official story. That is, he DOES NOT WANT to know the truth, rather like the caricature of the 3 monkeys, 1 with eyes covered, 1 with ears covered, and 1 with lips sealed. It's called denial. Yes, truth can be very painful in some cases. That said, once one accepts the truth, no matter how painful, it will eventually liberate your mind.