How Misogynists are Made

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  1. CCitizen

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    No man is born a misogynist -- yet many men have been made misogynist. During the last five decades there has been much discussion on how misogynists are made. Many theories have been presented. In this nanoessay, we present a three step recipe for producing a misogynist.

    The initial ingredient is any male. Many men would assert that they would never become misogynists, but that is prior to experiencing the steps described below.

    In the First Step, the male is subject to abuse. His first experience of abuse may be as a child in his family of origin. According to "Child Maltreatment 2006," USDHHS, mothers are about twice more likely to abuse children then fathers. His first experience of abuse may be as an adult in an intimate relationship. Many abused men are subject to systemic injustice by Law Enforcement, which generally treats the male victim of DV as the abuser. Many men who leave abusive marriages suffer significant discrimination during divorce. His first experience of abuse may be in the form of a false accusation. Even though American Justice System has Presumption of Innocence, one tweet is sufficient to destroy a man's career.

    I have never been abused, even though I did suffer from Depression connected to my Autism. I do not view myself as a misogynist. I advocate for fair treatment of men. I respect women who do not hate or abuse men. I am not a Male Separatist.

    Following Step 1, the man feels PTSD or Complex PTSD due to abuse. He feels resentment toward his abuser, and possibly toward the system if it was involved. He is not yet a misogynist, nor is he resentful toward all women.

    In the Second Step, the man is subject to Misandry. He starts to notice male bashing in Mainstream Media. He may have acquaintances making misandrist comments. He may notice the prevalence of male bashing on Social Media. Hashtags #menaretrash and #killallmen are common. TikTok is the worst place by orders of magnitude, followed by Twitter. YouTube and Reddit -- not so much yet. All kinds of negative generalizations are constantly made about men. All kinds of insults are constantly thrown at men as a gender. All men are blamed for misdeeds of a small percentage of men.

    Following Step 2, the man may develop some misogynistic inclination. Having been blamed for all wrongs done by all men throughout History, he starts blaming all women for the abuse and injustice he himself has suffered. At the end of Step 2, he is still not a full misogynist. He still understands that blaming any birth group is as wrong as being a racist. He understands that being resentful toward innocent people for the faults of others who share their innate characteristics is very wrong.

    In the Third Step, the man is subject to justification of Misandry, which is in many ways much worse then Misandry itself. Many men who take offense at male bashing on Social Media are told that if they are not guilty of any Sexism or Microaggressions, then it is not about them. They are told that only the men who are trash are offended by #menarepigs. Men are told that only men who are "a part of the problem" are offended by #killallmen. They are told that due to their innate Patriarchal guilt they must accept women "venting" by constantly insulting men and wishing harm on them. If they were really good men they would not object to those who wish death on them.

    Most importantly, a big majority of Liberal women and a majority of Liberal men support #killallmen. Not as a plan for genocide, but as an expression of strong contempt. Almost no one believes that men should actually be exterminated. But the majority of Liberals believe that men are a class of Oppressors. The majority of Liberals believe that a good man would accept his innate Patriarchal guilt and would never object to such a trifle as being verbally abused. Calling someone a pig and wishing death upon him even as a joke is a severe insult. A continuum of insults is verbal abuse.

    Following Step 3, the man realises that the Society views him as owing apology to his abusers. He realises that Society expects him to accept further unlimited verbal abuse due to his guilt. If all three steps have been performed correctly, a misogynist is made.

    A misogynist may become a MGTOW -- Male Separatist. If he is socially awkward, he may identify as InCel. He may interact with other like-minded men on countless online avenues. He may respond to male-bashing in kind.

    Many alarms have been sounded about online radicalization of young men. Many MGTOW resources have been banned as a result. Nevertheless, it is impossible to cut all avenues of communication.

    The problem of online radicalization of young men can not be solved by treating the symptom instead of looking at the cause. Young men are radicalized by being abused and then told that they owe endless amends to their abusers. Young men are radicalized by TikTok, not MGTOW forums.
     
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    I think you are wrong about the part quoted above.
     
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    From my online conversations with Liberals, I believe most of them support #killallmen.
    Do they believe men should be exterminated? Absolutely not. Do they believe men should be constantly shamed, insulted, and verbally abused? Absolutely yes. They also believe that any man who objects to such abuse is a "part of the problem".
     
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    Wow dude, you need to change your social circles. P.s. there's a few nicev liberal women here ^^
     
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    Hopefully, my observation of TikTok and Twitter does not match real life.
     
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    The internet, anonymity, and not having a live human in front of us reacting real time, and written word not conveying tone of voice, and the tendency to interpret writing by those we disagree with in the least favourable light, all add up to bring out the worst in people.

    I myself am liberal, and I don’t know many in real life who regard men as you view us regarding men. Radical feminists are radical. Few MRA are hateful towards women too, those who are are the radical few, yet many think that’s all MRA. Liberals aren’t all haters or white people either, just as conservatives aren’t all racists.

    The “woke” authoritian illiberals (Illiberal because they actually oppose liberty) are a very loud minority that frankly embarrass us as much as the “alt-right” and white nationalist types are a small but very loud minority that embarrasses conservatives. These two loud groups feed off of each other, and being extreme, grab more attention and headlines than they deserve.
     
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    Hopefully you are right. I am not white -- I am Jewish.
     
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    Well I'm glad we got that all cleared up. Duh!
     
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    Well, bless your heart.
    You REALLY need to get off the internet and get out in the real world.
     
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    How about you put this to a test. Here, at PF, I've never seen a lefty write this sentiment. Start a thread - ask the question. I don't know who you're actually conversing with, but the liberals I know have no belief in shaming, insulting or verbally abusing men. And they certainly don't support those who do.
     
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    Yup. I documented crime scenes for 9 years, I've seen some of the worst a man can do to a woman, and I still wouldn't bash men in general over the
    actions of a few.
     
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    All one needs to do is look at the kavanaugh hearings to understand what he is talking about. The left believes women should be able to throw out flimsy allegations about men, especially men in positions of power, and they should just be believed. Even without proper evidence. #metoo was another example. These things happen because women and liberals tend to believe that when it comes to the word of a man or a woman, the woman should always be believed because men have more power. Literally and figuratively. I'm not a misogynist and I do not approve of violence towards women, but I am aware there are women who see the trends of society and know that they can manipulate society to get things they want. I have a friend who worked security for a retail store, and he told me you wouldn't believe the number of girls who will scream rape if they are touched, even when they are stealing or being violent towards others. I love women, but the art of them getting what they want in life is manipulating people. You can observe this with beauty. Beautiful women are used to getting what they want because they are beautiful, and they can use their beauty as bait or a form of manipulation. How can such a beautiful girl be so nasty is the trap we guys fall into. This is why most ugly girls tend to be more self sufficient. They did not have any success with manipulation so they actually had to learn a trade or skill to provide for themselves. Men and society need to understand these types of things about women. However instead all you see is talking heads in politics, corporations, social media and what have you, that men are bad and women are good. It gets tiring as a guy, especially a guy who sees through the BS
     
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    With the exception of the "lost tribes" of Black Jews in Africa ya'll look pretty white to me.
     
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    From my research into MGTOW, it's not so much about separation as it is "going your own way". I think many men in the MGTOW vain basically see the tricks and manipulations that men commonly fall for in western society. The idea of being gynocentric and that we need to do anything and everything to keep women and make them happy. I think many men are getting tired of being socially forced to act a certain way in order to have a sexual partner. Many of them seem to have the attitude that "I am not playing the game anymore, when a woman wants to act right, she will get what she wants from me. If she wants to be a radical feminist or neo-prog she can make some other symps life miserable."
     
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    Your anecdotal evidence doesn't speak to my post. I agree - there are badly behaved women and men around every corner. But to label liberals as those who are shaming, insulting or verbally abusing men is ridiculous. And to use the BK hearings as evidence is also ridiculous.
     
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    You need to look harder, unless you think Arabs look 'white'. Plenty of Jews who look just like Arabs.
     
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    Your epidermis doesn't know your Jewish, Muslim, Christian or whatever. They are religions. Do you think people in Africa who are white skinned claim they are American Africans? Why does everyone have to be in a box like African American, Irish American, Chinese American? The color of one's skin is determined by the melanin in ones body under the epidermis. So actually you may be black on the outside but it's only skin deep. Same for whites. If you were born here you are a red blooded American.
     
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    Ask your doctor if you're white and come back here. In fact, as a LOT of doctors.
     
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    Kinda victim blamey isn't it? I mean I can understand framing problems in terms of how they're responses to what's happened to them, but is that really the case here? I don't think so.
     
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    You also don't need to be anti-feminist to be MGTOW. It only really means you don't want to date or take a spouse. It means you want to go your own way and not be trapped into marriage. It is anti-marriage (for yourself), not anti-woman, and gay men can also be MGTOW.
     
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    Thank you. Your generation and my generation are mostly normal people.

    Sadly, most of Generation Z have internalized insane messages.
     

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