How much can the Human Body take ?

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  1. Devil Dog

    Devil Dog Newly Registered

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    We have annual flu shots, Pneumonia shots, now multiple Covid shots. When does the body give up fighting something not there ?
     
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    This is a nonsens-eable concept!

    Frequently, even daily or hourly, our immune systems are evaluating potential threats to our bodies from outside (or inside)our bodies. An possible invader, be it bacterial or chemical, if known to the various immunities in each body built up by our mothers or experience, we can immediately attack and try to eliminate the invader.

    If unknown to the body, it can take some time to have the damage to our bodies be recognized and to finally mount against the attack. Sometimes too late and die, or have permanent damage.

    Once we have have had a disease, our immune system immediately to hopefully neutralize an invader because it recognized the threat and can quickly eliminate tge bacteria or virus.

    If someone is vaccinated, which consists of putting the living or dead invaders proteins formulated in a way to trigger the immune reponse but in a way that doesn't cause the actual infection. That's the
    difficulty of crafting vaccines

    The idea doesn't "give up" from getting infections, these immune responses from the vaccine trains the immune system to respond immediately to a future actual attempted infection. The immune system is recognizing the same fragment from the vaccine. A body doesn't "give up", in generally this response strengthens the immune system, much like any "exercise", unless weak or unwell for other reasons.
     
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    From experience I took an antiviral medicine that almost destroyed all the virus, but , this medicine destroyed a very high high percentage of my red blood cells in the process. I literally looked like a Casper.
    That is what left me believing that a flu shot may attack more than just a specific flu or virus. I also am 68 with Diabetes for over 20 years, and HBP from military time in the 70s.
     
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    Red blood cells regenerate quickly. But high blood sugar can slow them down.
     
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    Are you seriously suggesting that viruses do not exist?

    Based on your own description I'd strongly suggest the "viruses aren't real" path is a quick way to end your dependence on Medicare and Social Security.
     
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    The outcome depends on the location of the infection. If it's in the lungs, that's a very bad place because you need those lungs to breathe.
     
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    An antiviral medication has nothing to do with a vaccine. Indeed, antiviral are much more resemble taking a medicine to

    Antivirals can work in several ways, but none are used like a vaccine! A vaccine is simply a way to stimulate a person's own immunity to fight off an infection, usually done by giving a person a similar but inactivated, crippled or even just a little partial bit of disease's viral sequence to teach a person's immune system to hit that disease with a ton of bricks if it sees that partial part of that sequence from an actual infection agent on the future.

    Early vaccines used whole viral particles that could cause some illness to a weakened person, but those possibilities have more and more rare.

    With extreme oversimplification, an antiviral medication is more akin to rat poison, that hopefully knocks down the viral infection before it does to much bad stuff to the rest of the body.

    A vaccine is designed to train someone's body to defend itself from invaders, a much more positive and effective approach, if available, than antiviralls, poisons, antibiotics, and the host of other approaches.
     
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    I suppose my concern was/is how much immunity can a body accept before it can no longer provide this immunity from so much use. I for one feel like it has aged me to a great extent.
     
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    Double edge sword - if we hadn't developed vaccines against Polio, Smallpox, etc. - you might be dead. I guess death does stop the aging process, but
    I'm not sure that would be too much fun.
     
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    Death of the biological form means we go to heaven, according to some religions. What if they are right? :angel:
     
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    I am not sure about taking a vaccine. Life has been good, and humans seem to love quantity over quality, Perhaps just living and not fighting death is the honorable thing to do. Perhaps our molecules will move on to make another soul. Not for me to be concerned.
     
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    Taking a medicine for a known virus is an acceptable chance to take. To take a virus Vaccine for something that may or may not happen is a Pink Elephant Gun, that just killed a doctor in Florida due to it working like Interferon, and killing blood cells.
     

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