How much does the US pay the UK to hold Assange prisoner?

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How Much Is UK “Justice” Being Paid By Washington To Continue Holding Assange Prisoner?

    The Swedish Government has for a second time completely closed the false and concocted case against Assange, and the corrupt British will not withdraw their arrest warrant for his extradiction to Sweden, a country that has withdrawn its extradition request for him.
    Makes one wonder how much money corrupt UK prosecutors and judges are being paid by the CIA.
    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/20...washington-continue-holding-assange-prisoner/


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    I'm afraid the man is doomed. Even if the UK withdraws his arrest warrant and he steps out into the world, the US will nab him and put him in prison for life.
    The UN should step in and give him asylum to stay inside their compound.
    In North Korea he might be safe, but would they take him?
    Perhaps he could join Snowden in Moskau.
    To get to these countries is the problem.

    Where do you think Assange could go, were he set free?

    Read about a new hearing today here:
    https://www.rt.com/uk/418009-assange-arrest-warrant-ruling/

     
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    Arrest warrant is being ended in the UK according to todays newspaper.
     
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    He could sleep on my couch...so long as he does not start lecturing me about stuff. And does not make too much noise when I am trying to sleep.

    And he has to pay his share of the living expenses...especially internet costs.
     
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  4. Jazz

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    Apparently not. My given link says:
    Arrest warrant upheld in Julian Assange case, new hearing on February 13

    A British judge will rule on February 13 whether WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange can have his arrest warrant, for breaching bail conditions, lifted on “public interest grounds.”
    Speaking outside court, Assange’s lawyer Jennifer Robinson said all of us should be resisting the threat to free speech posed by the persecution of Assange.
    Here is the link again:
    https://www.rt.com/uk/418009-assange-arrest-warrant-ruling/
     
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    Assange locked himself in the cupboard and nobody else.
     
  6. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [​IMG]
    Assange ‘more than a nuisance’ – Ecuadorian president

    Yes, I can imagine they must be getting tired of him at their London embassy. Not a good feeling for Assange either.
    At least Obama pardoned Manning. Wish they would do the same for Assange. Why punish him retroactively? It would only satisfy the revenge feelings of the FBI agents. We, the people, would rather like to thank him for informing us.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't feel particularly sorry for people who try to make their fame and fortune by publishing classified documents...espionage is a ruthless dangerous business, what did he think was going to happen... or didn't he think about it before he started Wikileaks, besides... he publishes selectively, he's chosen his side...
     
  8. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, that is one way of looking at it, but if all the "Heroes" would act selfishly, there wouldn't be any heroes around. There are countless examples throughout the world's history where someone stuck out his neck recklessly to save, help or inform his fellow humans. Assange did this, because he had the guts. It was important to him that the common people should know about the lies and crimes of governments around the world. To be hunted and punished for his "groundbreaking journalism" shows us, how corrupt the US government, in particular, is.
    His home country, Australia, isn't any better. They have said they would not protect him. Of course they wouldn't! Australia is one of the Five Eyes intelligence sharing countries.
    Pathetic!
     
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    The same argument as terrorism in a way... one man's hero is another's traitor. If Assange had published classified information from a country China, Iran or Russia he'd more than likely be dead right now... so yeah guess leaving him to rot in an embassy is rather pathetic. Besides he's on Putin's payroll now... let Putin help him.
     
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    Five and a half years taken away from his life span just for exposing incompetence and corruption in high places. And as if that wasn't bad enough, he had to escape the organised wrath of a trumped-up charge so he could avoid being in chains in an American institution for the rest of his life (he'd have probably got '999 years'? :roll: ). This must surely be the most disgusting example of persecution of the individual by other individuals ruthlessly abusing their power. I hope all the main players get cancer, and soon.
     
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    As much as the writer of that article is being paid by the Russian government to propagate baseless speculation? ;)

    If that’s what the US wanted, why didn’t they do it when they could? His “crimes” against the US happened years ago and he was walking around freely in various countries for much of the time. Nothing changed in relation to the US when he jumped bail and fled to the embassy and nothing will change if and when he leaves.

    After the formality of his case for jumping bail, I’d expect he’d be either let free or deported to his home country of Australia. He’d then be free to go anywhere he wanted (or at least as free as anyone else). I don’t know if the current Ecuadoran leadership would want him but Russia might be an option, and would generate the media attention he clearly craves.
     
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    Wikileaks can only publish what information is leaked to them and the US leaks like a sieve - I think because different factions are at war there.
     
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    I doubt the Russians have anything to do with Assange. The writer of the article is Dr. Craig Roberts.
    Why then are they after Snowden? Why did they have a rendition flight ready for him in Europe?
    A former Icelandic minister has claimed that the FBI attempted to frame Julian Assange during a mission to Iceland.
    Read the full story here...
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-claims-FBI-tried-frame-Julian-Assange.html
    Russia is already treading on thin ice with the US due to having granted asylum to Snowdon. I doubt they would offer the same to Assange, but Iceland had already considered it years ago.

    To get a grip on what is actually going on, rewind to WikiLeaks' explosive release of secret US military reports and hundreds of thousands of diplomatic cables two years ago. They disgorged devastating evidence of US war crimes and collusion with death squads in Iraq on an industrial scale, the machinations and lies of America's wars and allies, its illegal US spying on UN officials – as well as a compendium of official corruption and deceit across the world.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/21/why-us-is-out-to-get-assange


    Vice-president Joe Biden has compared Assange to a "hi-tech terrorist".

    I'm pretty sure the FBI/CIA can't wait to get their hands on him, although, him not being an US citizen, he can't be charged for treason.
     
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  14. Jazz

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    Aha, you believe what Mrs. Clinton is spitting out...

    Hillary Clinton has repeated her claim that the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, colluded with the Russian government in the lead-up to the 2016 US election, describing him as a “nihilistic opportunist who does the bidding of a dictator”.In an interview with the ABC’s Four Corners program, to air on Monday night, Clinton alleges that Assange cooperated with the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, to disrupt the US election and damage her campaign for president.

    http://news2read.com/us/1369492/clinton-says-wikileaks-is-now-a-subsidiary-of-russian-intelligence

    Pathetic!
     
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    Then you would really despise a free press if we ever got one back. We have been through this with the Pentagon Papers. Perhaps before your time so you are not aware of it.

    Leaks, of all kinds of info is what a free press runs on, for without it, speaking truth to power is not possible. You really love an authoritarian state, do you not?
     
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    not aware of Pentagon Papers... but really happy with the Panama Papers... as I've pointed out before, the Panama papers is the sort of thing that should be leaked online... not classified documents. Also it's very telling the Panama Papers were not handed over to Assange as there were $2billion of Putins money detailed in the Panama Papers.... obviously the hackers knew Assange being on Putin's payroll, would not published it.... that's not fee speech either is it... which makes Assange.... and you a hypocrite.

    Besides, who's stupid enough to start a website that leaks classified documents and think there's a happy ending... I certainly wouldn't do it,
     
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    James Bond needs to discreetly take him out.
     
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    you're repeating yourself, but since you insist I'll clarify that I don't have a particularly high opinion of you either. Regarding the rest of your post, I'll quote a previous post I made on the topic... don't think Hillary is mentioned once, so who knows what other rubbish you're going to dream up... likely you're going to spasm and scream Obama incoherently in the middle of the conversation somewhere.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...eedom-and-governments.525109/#post-1068624654

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia-ties

     
  19. Jazz

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    Yes, he did. He is responsible for the consequences of his actions.
     
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    That was a joke. I was satirically making a ridiculously slanderous accusation against him with no evidence or justification to demonstrate the ridiculousness of the slanderous accusation he made against the UK authorities without evidence or justification. He’s basically doing the same thing the US authorities are being accused of doing to Assange.

    We’re talking about Assange, not Snowden. They’re entirely different individuals in entirely different situations.

    Unsupported accusations, speculation and paranoia don’t prove anything. The fact remains that if the US government really wanted Assange in their custody, they could have kidnapped him from pretty much anywhere in the world at any point over a period of several years but they chose not to. His situation if he were to leave the Embassy a today wouldn’t be little different to when he entered it in the first place. And if you believe the US authorities need to go through the sketchy process of trying to frame him in another country, how can you also believe that they could so easily extradite him legally from the UK or Sweden?

    I have absolutely no doubt there are individuals across the US government and intelligent agencies who hate Assange and would love to see him fall one way or another and some would take the opportunity to give him a push if they could though equally I’m sure there are plenty who don’t really care or even who support him. It’s the idea of some monolithic USA entity with a dedicated focus to get hold of Assange and punish him for perceived crimes is grossly exaggerated, demonstrated by the simple fact that it hasn’t happened.

    It’s all generates great marketing copy for WIkileaks though. ;)
     
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    Excellent article by Milne. I'd not seen that before.
     
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    So that's why our shower of **** politicos backed up the US a la America's poodle as per. Oh the shame of what my country has become. But hey, that's 'bureaucrats' for ya!
     
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    Why are we America's poodle's is the question I keep asking myself?
     
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    Probably sommat to do with the fact that when UK prime ministers 'move on', they can carry on coining it on the American lecture circuits? [​IMG] Just a guess! ;)
     
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    Maybe:



    I also think the USA's ability to effect regime change and economically pressure a nation shouldn't be overlooked. On the regime change front it happened once with Harold Wilson - and economically it happened with Suez. Almost ancient history I know, but the shadow of these is still latent. Then there were the Gladio "actions" in Europe.

    Probably a bit of both, the carrot and the stick, I suppose.
     

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