How much does the US pay the UK to hold Assange prisoner?

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right, SH - in the recent past the population was uneducated because of poor teaching standards/methods, and early school leaving because the kids had to supplement their parents' (father's?) crap wages; in that case we had ignorance and servility of the masses by the erstwhile social circumstances; but because of social evolvement that has now had to be replaced by a dumbing down project, led principally by the BBC and ITV, in order to keep the masses bovine and indifferent to world events, in that provided they have the bread-and-circuses to watch on tv - think red carpet events, royal weddings, and mindless entertainment, the more vulgar, the better? - everybody's happy, so it does the same job? So Social Engineering is alive and well, but in a difference guise.

    Actually I just re-read that and it reminded me of a film entitled Harrison Bergeron.
     
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    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    Don't get me started on the Beeb or TV news in general - waste of space infotainment. At best.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a fact! I've noticed that on BBC news channel there's almost more infotainment, ie waffling on ad nauseam about all the red carpet shindigs and the latest movies, as news content - talking of which, I don't half find that Kermode geezer irritating with that monotonic voice of his! :rage: :machinegun::sunnysideup:
     
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    No underhand motives involved in Judge Lady Arbuthnot's recent ruling to reject Assange's appeal to overturn the arrest warrant then...

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/arch...udges-husband-runs-security-firm-ex-head-mi6/
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bloody hell, and they talk about the Washington swamp? They're a bunch of effing amateurs compared to the Westminster swamp.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank You, Striped Horse, for finding this very revealing article! Now we know for sure why they ruled the way they did. Corruption in high places!!!
    I'll quote the last sentence from the article, it deserves exposure:

    "I should like to conclude that “Lady” Arbuthnot is a disgrace to the English justice system, but I fear she is rather typical of it. This intellectually corrupt, openly biased, callous Tory shill is rather a disgrace to humanity itself."
     
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    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    You're welcome Jazz. This actually reminds me of the judges appointed by Theresa May, when Home Secretary, to the child sex abuse inquiry, where the first 2 judges were (eventually after accepting) forced to recuse themselves because they has social connections to one of the principals ("defendants") to be examined in the inquiry - former Home Secretary, Lewd Leon Brittan... sorry, that should be Lord Leon Brittan. Delay after delay and still more obfuscation until Brittan safely managed to expire peacefully in his bed, questions unasked and unanswered. The 3rd judge resigned due to meddling by members of her staff (appointed by the Home Office) and the 4th is now in situ - although at least one of the major charities involved have withdrawn their support due to distrust of that individual and the government agenda in all this. Quite disgraceful, of course, but:

    It's all such a very British affair...
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is this him?
    LEON BRITTAN; RAPE AND MURDER
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    http://aanirfan.blogspot.ca/2015/10/leon-brittan-and-bbc.html
     
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    Yes, that's the man. I've never regarded Aangirfan as a source of any sort of reliability or accuracy. He claims so much, but evidences so little. The Needle was a far better source on Britian's paedophilia disease, but ceased a year or two ago.

    The famous Dickens "lost file" (HERE) speaks volumes, I think. That and the fact that the Home Office apparently gave PIE (the Paedophile Information Exchange) donations (HERE) back in the 1970's. This is just the tip of the iceberg though.

    One of the clearest recent cases was the Haut de la Garenne boys home in Jersey, where the power of state cover up was there for all to see. That was former Prime Minister, Edward Heath's, preferred destination, thus extremely sensitive until Heath passed away in 2005. The "fixer" and procurer, Jimmy Savile, was present there too. Then there is Dunblane and also the Kincora Boys Home scandal told by Colin Wallace. The list of infamy goes on.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's more of this disgusting stuff going on in the top echelons of our society than at the bottom of it, and to a far greater extent than any of us would dare to believe. I always equate it with a sense that a society which abuses the weakest and most vulnerable - think 'children' and 'the elderly' and 'disabled' in their respective 'care' homes - is a society which is on the brink of destruction. And let nobody tell me it wasn't rampant in Dolphin Square!!
     
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    Public school upbringing and buggery and fagging in the changing room...
     
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    He should be in prison. He's a very dangerous man. Countries have a right to keep sensitive information away from the public at large. He's a very dangerous man.
     
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    Australia is smart and right not to protect him.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed so. That's why so many of these perverts get themselves into politics - it's the only way of putting themselves above of the law. And the more of them there are in Westminster, the more of their own kind they can use their influence to invite in to join them. To watch them on the parliamentary benches sanctimoniously and hypocritically presenting the acceptable face of society when they're the very evil of it makes me feel sick to the stomach.
     
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    Yes, he's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very dangerous man.

    For publishing this sensitive information of US forces in Afghanistan murdering innocent people and jounralists, for example:

     
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    I had a bad dream last night, because of this horrible story, the suffering of the children. It is too much for a normal person to imagine how such an abused child feels, so totally helpless. That's when I wonder, if there really is a God! Well, we supposedly will all reap what we sow, it just doesn't happen instantly. Our lives are mysteries... we have no clue who we really are, where we have been and what we have experienced. We simply have to trust there is a higher intelligence that guides us.
     
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    Higher places... would you go as high as the Royals? A few years ago I read about the abduction of native Canadian children by the Queen of England. Here is the story:

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    This is William Combes.

    He said he witnessed "the abduction of ten fellow residential school children by the Queen of England and her husband in October, 1964 at the Catholic school in Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada."

    According to Anonymous:

    In Canada, "government and church-run 'residential' schools were used to systematically break down native communities over decades.

    "Sexual abuse was normal, and murders also happened.

    "Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip have been directly accused of being present at such a school when 10 kids went missing...

    "An official inquiry was due to hear testimony in a few months from the last surviving witness to see the Queen with those kids.

    "That last witness died this week in mysterious circumstances."

    Read on here:
    http://aangirfan.blogspot.ca/2011/03/queen-and-missing-kids.html

    Not one animal is as cruel as a human being can be and is!
     
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    Yes, unless it concerns the things they have done in our name which are barbaric, above the constitution, against international law, or even such things as killing journalists in a botched or intentional attack.

    There is a line which my gov't has crossed many times. Keeping it from the people is nothing but the exercise of tyranny and evil.

    Speaking truth to power is what a free press is supposed to do. And traditionally this can only be done when someone on the inside lets journalists know about it. If you want to live under fascism and control of info to cover up for criminals and barbarians, fine, but some of us will never accept what you promote. We lost lots of lives fighting for what you seem to want. Classifying something to hide a dirty truth demands people like assange and the patriots who leak to him.
     
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    The problem is, someone like Assange should not be in charge of or have the ability to release any confidential, sensitive information he chooses. He is not a person with a security clearance; in fact, he is someone with an agenda to cause damage in certain areas. Everyone is making an issue now about who has security clearance in the White House. No one without security clearance should have access to sensitive government information, period.
     
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    What government is gonna give security clearance to, of all professions' an investigative journalist ffs? :wall:
     
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    I understand. The whole subject of paedophilia is an assault on decency and I feel for the kids too. It's heart-breaking. Some of the things these sick bastards do is simply unspeakable and I have no intention of filling the pages of this forum with examples.

    Take care.
     
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    Oops, that apostrophe should've been a comma. How did that happen!! [​IMG]
     
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    They do it because they have zero fear of the penalty. They'll do a few weeks in the slammer fantasizing with other segregated paedophiles until the cell is needed for someone else, then they get chucked out onto the streets (under what's laughingly called 'monitored release') to carry on where they left off. Bit like terrorists, actually.
     
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    I don't buy that to be honest Jazz - and I think great care has to be taken because there is an awful lot of smoke and mirrors surrounding the subject. Probably due to the involvement of the security services and Special Branch who are there to protect VIP's, often being blackmailed by same (check out appendix 6 in Colin Wallace's HIAI 23 Feb 2017 presentation re Kincora Boys Home affair HERE). One example is the late Liberal MP, Cyril Smith, who was protected by British agencies until well after his death (HERE).

    But it has gone as high as members of the royal household (HERE). I have a copy of the visitors book listng and there were dozens and dozens of policemen who were visitors to Elm House - although I doubt the Anthony Blunt entry was accurate - why would a former double spy and lover of a Prince George, Duke of Kent, present himself at a seedy lodging house for sex (HERE)?

    In passing I would mention the suspicious death of Prince George in a seaplane "accident" in Scotland in 1942, conceals a real corker of a story of assassination, betrayal and WWII duplicity that was never meant to be known. Ever. But these things have a way of trickling out eventually as some of those involved, reaching their last days, feel a need to get things off their chest.
     
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    So, you approve of governments that secretly spy on their citizens, read all their mail, listen to all their phone conversations, have all their medical info etc.?
    Who are the folks sitting in the Government, getting paid by us, the citizens, and freely molest our children?
    In our name they kill, torture and maim innocent people of other countries, label them at will "terrorists" and think themselves gods.
    And You have the nerve to say Assange is evil and dangerous and should never have exposed their vile secrets!!!!!!
     
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