How much of the white population...

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  1. Renee

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    You guys are so bitchy and catty!
     
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    You mean people expect you not to put YOUR words in with THEIR quote and even ask you to fix it a few minutes later, which you ignore? Fine, next time I will simply report it.
    I have no desire to have anything you post, attributed to me. Do better.
     
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    Politics is not religion - there is no moral code, no dogma, no 'feelings'. Politics is pragmatics and economics. I can be entirely communist in my politics, and be opposed to homosexuality, welfare, and atheism .. for example. I'm none of those things, but I could be - and still be politically hard Left. If you find that odd, then I submit that you confuse politics with ideology.

    Yes, I'm vehemently opposed to Progressivism. It's a regressive and archly conservative ideology which has no business in politics. We need people interested in PROGRESS, not Progressivism. And there is a universe of difference.

    I don't know what Fake Socialists (aka, Progressives) tell you about 'extinguishing racism', but my view is that colourblindness is the ONLY answer. We live in modern First World multicultural democracies, united by long-shared culture and nationhood. Having said that, I would never want to extinguish culturism. Culture is behaviour, and behaviour is optional. This makes it a superb litmus test of an individual's character, because someone with good intentions will not engage in divisive behaviour. Colour won't tell us that - though racists would argue otherwise.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Renee....I am a believer in Natural Law for one thing. It is entirely "natural" for one to prefer, say, members of one's own family over others. It is "natural" for one to prefer members of one owns race over another. It is "natural" for one to prefer his own countrymen over others. As one matures and grows he learns to "trust" those that are different. This is a natural progression that every imperfect human goes through. We can influence our children and others, but ultimately they must learn for themselves.

    It seems to me that there is a belief in some that "they have arrived". They have avoided this natural progression and will now use the hand of government to eliminate those in the midst of this progression. In order to acquire that government, they will give it ultimate power over the "consent of the governed" to achieve what they call "political correctness". Have I spelled out our differences?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Progressivism is regressive and conservative? You sound like one confused young lady.
    No answer to my questions as to what is racist about progressive policies and how would the ''left-wing socialist'' change them.
    But you do go on about ''culturism'', the rights answer to multiculturalism. No one argues that content of character does not matter. Making assumptions about character from the person's race is what progressives are against.
    So you are all for ''colour'' blindness and believe people with good intentions will not engage in divisive behavior. So what do you think of Black Lives Matter?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So there should be no laws against treating people unfairly based on race, ethnicity, sex or orientation because the person treating them that way hasn't ''arrived'' yet?
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/il...mock-trump-assassination-photos-at-fundraiser

    Typical lefty .
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/il...mock-trump-assassination-photos-at-fundraiser

    Imagine a senator doing this about obama the bobo? Double standards.
     
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    Focus needs to be on the culture and individuals living in the culture. If the tobacco industry can convince millions that smoking and vaping is good, then we as individuals can convince the majority that discrimination based on race is unacceptable. I believe in teaching and living by example a virtuous life We just don't give the government more power to enforce and control citizens. That is unless you are of the mind we establish an "all powerful government" and have them dispense our "rights". My rights come from a" higher power" and I only consent to being governed as long as those rights are not infringed upon.

    Sexual behavior in no way equates to race.

    One other thing,Edna.....we are all individuals and flawed at that. Do you trust a small body of individuals to announce "they have arrived" and dictate how we are to live? Right now we have a small body that equates our Nation enforcing our borders as "racism". Has nothing to do with it. At the same time, they denounce Israel's right to exist and work towards it's end. I'm for keeping government powers not so concentrated so there is more accountability.
     
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    Hey I have an idea...put me in ignore because obviously I am getting you upset.
     
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    Yes I agree with a lot of what you have to say and young people are realizing that people of other races are just as good. But when historically black people were defined as inferior human beings it will take many generations for that internalized message for blacks and whites to go away. If someone tells you that your next-door neighbors are criminals you’ll see them as people you should not associate with. And they could be the same race as you.
    I think you are also not realizing that people with similar beliefs bond. I could be in a room filled with people and would gravitate to people who shared my political beliefs. I am white and would never gravitate to Trump supporters
     
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    Listen to you.....and you have "arrived"! :applause:
     
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    I know I am very important but unfortunately I am not President of the United States. But if I were I would have the intelligence not to say things like that
     
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    We fought a giant Civil War to set things right. We fought the Jim Crow throughout the sixties. We are on the road to normalization where individuals can truly be free if they make the right choices. Why continue to agitate? You do agitate. Example? Here's a small one......

    Now you show me where someone used these words. You can't. You grab a narrative from the left wing media who depends on "race baiting" and you run with it. Sure.....you will say "racism is implied" here , but you can say that in any situation. It is a fact, some come here from South of our border are criminals. There are drug traffickers, Coyotes, and human trafficking (sex trade). By nature, one could assume that the body of those that are willing to circumvent our laws, would, in fact, contain criminals.

    Now you show me the quote. Am I being dishonest in what I say?
     
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    I bet you would if they were the only people you shared a common language with, or the non-Trump supporters greeted you with

    "What do you want honkey b*itch?"
     
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    So, you would put on your "political face" and not truly express your thoughts? Understand, Trump was partially elected due to his "brutal honesty". You may not like the tone.....but we love the results!
     
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    That's a lot of verbage to say no. People that are discriminated against should not have a legal right to be treated fairly even if the general society thinks they should have that right?
    We need to wait until everybody's ''woke''.
     
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    May want to ask "How much of the non-white population of the USA do you believe to be racist?" in a different thread. Will probably make such a thread myself, actually.

    To answer the question though, and using personal observation(albeit subjective as hell), I'd say very very few. Out of the tens of thousands of people I have observed through Discord, forums and other social platform, and to an extent interacted with a good amount of people from all walks of life, maybe 10 at most were actually racist to some or a full degree.

    People just don't give a crap about your race unless you're shoving it into people's faces. No one gives a sh*t about your race, okay? Virtually no one.

    You don't solve the issue of racism if you yourself are racist and/or think in racial terms.
     
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    Nahh, not even close, you amuse me.
     
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    1) I ain't young. And yes, Progressivism is deeply conservative. It is an ideology predicated on a single fixed solution, and applied to all situations in all times. There is the fundamentally conservative belief that it is always the right solution. There is no allowance for alternative solutions according to the needs of the moment. In the 60's Progressivism was needed to address the wrongs of earlier decades, for example. Tomorrow we may need something entirely different - but Progressives will not truck the idea of fluid adaptation to the needs of the day. In this sense they are both regressive (holding too tightly to old solutions), and conservative. A progressive (small p) is an individual who understands that different times required different politics, and accepts that in the name of progress. PS: If this stuff isn't obvious to you, then I submit that you are confused, and possibly not very observant of the zeitgeist.

    2) I offered my thoughts. Colourblindness is the only truly non-racist approach, because race is ignored entirely. I think ANY sub-set within a given nation distinguishing itself by race, is a racist organisation. Obviously. What binds us is culture and nationhood, not skin and hair.

    3) Progressives do judge others according to skin tone. All the time.
     
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    Unbelievable.
     
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    Were you triggered?
     

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