How much of the white population...

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Chester_Murphy, Aug 7, 2019.

  1. therooster

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    She was never president . Although it was her god given right , just ask any dem.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I beg your pardon, I thought you were young because of the not well thought out opinions and the drama, also your ignorance of what progressivism is. Maybe your hatred of it prevents you from seeing clearly. Progressivism has been the engine of social change for the better. Equal rights, women's rights, child protections, animal rights, equal protection under the law and on and on. Where has the right been on these issues and where has this ''left-wing socialist'' been on these issues?
    I have challenged you to answer a few simple questions but all I get is right-wing talking points, hyperbole, vague assertions and dogmatism.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Uh, it was about Bill Clinton and the Stable Genius defended it.....nice to know where you are coming from.
     
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    Sure, Honey. You're talking to someone who is both past 50, and a lifelong Leftist progressive.

    But since you've apparently not spent a nanosecond playing devil's advocate with your own assumptions and ideology .. let me simplify it for you: Progressivism (capital P) SOMETIMES serves a purpose, and OTHER TIMES is problematic. There is nothing more certain than change, and changing times demand changing politics. We needed Progressivism in the 1960's, we don't need it today - while children are still starving and the planet is dying. The conservative (small c) refuses to accept that, and insists that their ideology is right FOR ALL TIMES, and ALL CONDITIONS. That is patently untrue, and in practice is therefore regressive.

    The progressive (small p) understands that progress is beyond the politics of the day. The progressive is interested in forward motion, not ideology. If forward motion demands a politic which may have been objectionable last year, so be it. In fact that's exactly how the 60's happened .. because the presiding political mores were replaced to meet the needs of the moment. This should be obvious to anyone claiming to be for progress.
     
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  5. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So what's your take on Black Lives Matter?
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    I've already stated that. Go back and read my replies to you.

    Again ... I said that ANY group or organisation predicated on race in the 21stC, is a problem.
     
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    You mean Epsteins main man and pedophile billy boy ? America's first black president ? Hold my saxophone?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    That's just where I thought you were coming from.......ignorance.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's the focus of "identity politics" and the Democrat Party. Of course we're wise to that.
     
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    Lol.... oh you guys !!!!
     
  11. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So a group that protests a high proportion of unarmed black men being shot by police is a ''problem'' for a ''left-wing socialist''?
    How many actual LWSs would agree with that?
     
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    OMG .. is politics religion to you?

    Meantime, why are a 'high proportion' of African Americans attracting the attention of police? Asian Americans aren't. Dark Skinned Indian Americans aren't. Nigerians aren't. Do better, Dear.
     
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    Perpetuating racism is the name of the game.

    And African Americans are still the primary victims .. but at least now it's voluntary.
     
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    Another answer ''liked'' by right-wingers from a ''I don't see colour'' ''left-wing socialist'' based on race. One based on ignorance rather than fact.
    Poverty not race exposes the impoverished to increased crime, gangs, drug addiction, black marketeering, a lack of mental health care and more which attract the attention of the po po. The same can be seen in impoverished white Appalachian communities or Mexican barrios.
    So what should the black community do to combat unarmed black men being shot by police? Shut up and behave seems to be your answer. How right-wing of you.
     
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    The US has now over 1.000 white hate groups. Who is playing identity politics?
     
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    Probably less than 1%, whites are too busy working to worry about or be involved in racism.
     
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    That is according to the SPLC which is a black hate group and widely discredited for being such.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Then why does it list over 250 black hate groups? You are widely discredited.
     
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    To give them a semblance of being credible.
     
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    I hear white this white that.....Hispanic this Hispanic that....black this black that... LBGTQ this LBGTQ that all the time! I thought we were all Americans but noooooo you Progressives want to divide and conquer!
    You say there are a thousand white hate groups Edna. Well if you can't name and substantiate just 25 I am going to announce to the world you are a liar!
    Just saw an article in my local paper where some leftist brainwashed scum said President Trump said "Mexicans are rapists, druggies, and thieves". I have heard similar to that on this Political Forum. Problem is, that is an out and out lie! I have heard his exact quote time and again, but leftists never get it right. They always reflect what the news media tells them. They are all liars!
     
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    That is because being non-self-thinking they are easy to brainwash, being lazy they do no actual research, they just sit back and absorb what the MSM programs into their brains and then they puke it back as if it was factual.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's something,Edna, I bet you never knew from your indoctrination:
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    Oh my, the analogy went right over your head.
    You are wimpl enough to believe that people who have been defined as inferior human beings for generations suddenly are seen as equal because of laws cha going Jim Crow . .. You have no understanding of the internalization of messages. Both blacks and whites have internalized the messages and it will take many generations to change that.
    I guess you would rather focus on the criminals which are very few rather than people fleeing from violence and poverty. We just have different values
     
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    That's good .. it shows I don't behave like a religious zealot towards the Other Side.

    Meantime, yeah sure - poverty causes crime. Except when it doesn't - as in the billions of deeply impoverished people around the world not committing crimes. That's like saying poverty causes obesity (when the billions of skinny poor people around the world prove otherwise).

    Do better, Dear.
     
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    It’s so funny that the media which is main stream is something that you deplore. Orwell warned us . Main stream is not right or left, just straight reporting But obviously you cannot differentiate from opinion journalism. There is something funny also about “non-thinking and easy to brainwash “when trump said he loves his base because they don’t educate themselves and would defend him even if he shot someone
     

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