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  1. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You prove nothing systemic. This is one man's account, just as mine.
     
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    Explain hypergamy.
    She could easily have become a stay at home mom with a part time job without having to put me into poverty and crushing my hopes and dreams. The system did the crushing, adjudicated by a white woman who thought she was at a disadvantage to men.
    I don't know how old they are. I don't see them. She has decided not to be in my life. Another consequence of the system run by women.
     
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    No it is not one man’s account though yours is. Millions of white men had the privileges of going to the top universities with the best networking systems. Millions of white men had the privilege of getting loans and getting credit cards in their own names when they were married. Many men were given opportunities that women didn’t dream of and that is why I illustrated my husband. He was unique In that he was a 10th grade dropout but he was not unique in being a white man getting that shot
     
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    Renee, the key word in that is "had". It is not the same as it was when you were growing up. It is now much different. It is more like what I posted.
     
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    Exactly and do you think all those changes just happened in a vacuum? If you think you are being treated unfairly then do something. I have to assume you are much younger than I am but then again so is everyone LOL
     
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    I've done all I can. My chances are gone. Businesses don't want older folks.

    Edit: Be proud. Your policies ****ed me good. That was your intention. Someone had to pay for others to gain. Anything else is impossible.

    I'm quite sure I'm not alone.
     
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    That’s true! Like men don’t want older womenI remember reading an article about men’s midlife crises at about 35 or 40 because it is at the point that they must make a change or else accept where they are.My husband went down on the trading floor at 32 and someone asked him, “what are you doing here old timer?”
     
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    Men don't find older women attractive unless he has been with her most of his life. The bond that is created long-term is different from dating. Most of the women past menopause aren't interested in sex like they were before and men know this. Many of them don't take care of themselves enough to look attractive. That's an obvious sign they aren't interested in sex.

    I'm done with this. It has nothing to do with the op. Please refrain from more. Thanks.
     
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    Actually women are judged by their attractiveness and has nothing to do with menopause because most the older men aren’t as sexual either. You don’t have to respond
    By the way going off topic and leading into a different one is where the best lessons are. In my book I talk about going with the roll..
     
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    You don't know me. It takes more than just attractiveness.
    I understand and am not upset by going off topic. I am tired of talking about it for now.
     
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    You are personalizing. It doesn’t take a rocket science just to realize that women are valued for their youth and beauty. This is an about you it’s about society in general
     
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    This is wrong. Men, generally, seek to marry women who are prettier then them and women, generally, seek to marry men with more resources than them. The only reason men tend to marry women withing their own social class is the result of proximity. It has zero to do with "emasculation" and you can thus leave your croypto-freudian amateur psycho-analysis where it belongs; in the trash.

    It really took you more than 40 years to learn basic econommics? :laughing: You actually thought that high-earners made lots of money because they were the worst at what they were doing? :laughing:

    Nah. For men it is, evolutionary speaking, all about looks.
     
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    That is changing. Women are not seeking rich men because they have their own resources...they aren’t dependent like they were and it’s wonderful to see .Doesn’t speak very highly of men it looks are what they need in a woman
    So you think that when I charged a lot more money I became a better speaker than when I made a lot less? I was just as good when I volunteered as I was when I made thousands. But I did learn that the more you charged the better they think you are. I would sometimes volunteer for nothing and I was not treated with the same respect I was when I charged a lot. Same speaker!
     
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    Resources does not necessarily and exclusively refer to economic capital in this context. It also refers to how good of a protector, role model and potential father figure he is perceived as. Does he have a job? Does he have a plan? Does he have a good personality? Is he healthy?

    What can I say? Men are pigs.

    No. The other way around - You charged more money because you had become a better and more attractive speaker.

    This is wrong. You cannot charge whatever when you are an unknown newbie. When more people start to recognise your name and when more people start to look for your name on the "events list", you become more expensive. Supply and demand, you know.
     
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    Actually my first speech I charged $500 and I thought I was making a killing. It was the person who hired me who told me that I am so way below market price because I had a best-selling book. I became more expensive when I asked for more money. Lol I was not known by cities, but once I did speak, they called me back. I also spoke free in big cities because I believe in giving back
     
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    Wonders of capitalism. :)
     
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    I don’t think you understand what racism is do you think black people want America to be black? Did you think black people believe they are superior to white people? Do they want to segregate white people? Why is it when people fight against oppression the oppressors believe but they want to be superior
     
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    This is why Trump loves the uneducated. Hate groups are growing in numbers never seen before. Just do a little googling and you will see that. But then again when you see it you will just say it’s fake news so it really doesn’t matter.
    Sorry I don’t think there’s anything wrong with leveling the playing field
     
  19. Chester_Murphy

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    Every source has it's biases. One must come to some perspective before making any definitive conclusions from an article or study.
    I don't understand your definition of leveling the playing field. When it is done with a careless attitude of revenge, there is definitely something wrong with the processes.

    Google what exactly? I have lived the detrimental side of women's rights and the suppression of white males. I'm not sure they can tell me anything I don't know.
     
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    SPLC ..thatis what they do ! It doesn’t matter if they have a bias or not if they have statistics that prove their points.And the government uses their statistics. And before you yell fake news they also include minority hate groups.. Tell me about the detrimental sides of women’s rights and how white males have been suppressed. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds when men control almost everything? I think you just want to be a victim so badly.
     
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    Statistics depend upon the questions asked and the subjects answering. A biased question and audience will have predictable outcomes. I am extremely skeptical of all statistical analysis.

    I have already told you about things in my life that relate to those issues.

    Men don't control everything or women would not have what they do today. Even in marriages, women make many decisions and influence their husband.
     
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    These are not about statistics. These are studies of groups which compile statistics. How you can ignore this is beyond me. Just google hate groups.I don’t know how you can pretend that they aren’t rising
    Yes men still control most things in this country. I laugh about the marriage analogy A man in my group one said, “women run the home and we men run the world” why shouldn’t a woman influence her husband? Why shouldn’t a man influence his wife? Thank goodness my marriage was one of equality
     
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    I'm not ignoring anything. I'm simply telling you my opinion on statistics and how the information is gathered.

    Equality has nothing to do with influence. It has everything to do with who makes the final decisions.

    So, at what point will you be okay with the way this country is run? How will you get to those goals of equality? Will it be done as you have stated has been done in the past and you are okay with? I'm thinking of forced suppression and favoritism.
     
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    We need more women. It is important that we have women and minorities making big decisions and the Democratic Party seems to have a lot of that
     
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    What do you expect them to do for the cause of equality?
     
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