How the Trump administration failed to protect America, a chronicle of missed opportunities, denials

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, America is over the 100,000 death mark, and Trump is bloviating.
    My gut feeling is that Trump will be voted out of office.
    There is no way he can overcome this, it's gonna last until next year, the second wave
    is coming and he continues to sound like a buffoon.

     
  2. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As if any Democrat could have done better.

    That’s laughable. none if them would have been as pro-active as Trump.
     
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    Right, Trump didn’t do much about this virus until March and at that point, the damage was already done. We all remember how he initially played it down as a Democratic hoax at rallies in February.

    Not that these stupid lockdowns have been anything to brag about either, but Trump has certainly missed the mark when it’s come to being proactive.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With your help, he has a good chance. Are we going to pretend that elected officials did any better if there was a D by their name?
     
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    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    right he just called it flu for two month while the virus rampage in US in that time.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Revisionist history.

    The WHO told him it was no big deal. But by 1/31/20 he saw it was serious and shut down travel from China. Meanwhile, the Dems partied with impeachment and told Americans to go to restaurants all through February.
     
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    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    really? on jan23 china lock down 11 millions, on jan20 china said its human to human transmittable, is trump just dumb not taking it seriously when china did the record lockdown in jan. i mean when i saw that news, its like oh crap, its getting serious, but no he was playing golf.
    lets not forget peter navro, health official and our intel warn trump in Jan potential seriousness of the problem.
    he ignore till march thats fact. now kudo to him on suspend flight from china in Jan, but it doesn't excuse him downplay it till march
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one (left, right, or center) was clamoring for action to be taken in February. And when he did act, he was told he was an overreacting, racist, xenophobe.
     
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    And what was the Democratic response when Trump stopped travel from China?
    When did the DCD finally say that COVID was something to worry about?
     
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    oh i'm not lib, If democrat is in power and screw up, then they held responsibility, but Trump is the POTUS, he screw up, he held responsibility.
    common sense indicate when someone lock up 11 million ppl, then its serious.
     
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    dont try find him excuse, he was POTUS not left or center, if lib in power and screw up, then its their responsibility, but they dont have potus right?
     
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    And I guess the Korean War was Truman’s fault. NK crossed into SK whileTruman was president.
     
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    So you promise to blame Biden as we cross the 200K, 300K,400K, ..., 1M

    milestones as they occur?
     
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    who call it flu for almost 2 month? and said it will be gone by april
     
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    biden is not potus, if he were potus and call it flu, then downplay for 2 month, ill blame him too. Biden doesn't have the power to change from jan-march
     
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    But he likely will be.

    Will you blame him then?
     
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    absolutely i'm not lib, i'm independent, i vote bush way back. if biden did something stupid while he is in office, ill blame him too.
     
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    The "fault" of a president is from what he fails to do to minimize or avoid the damage from a geopolitical event.

    Ignoring the warnings of Pearl Harbor attack, failing to prevent his military from doing false flag that triggered the Vietnam War and encouraged its continuation. With Trump, a significant event was to ban Chinese citizens from China, while ignore the 100s of thousands Chinese travelers flying to the USA anyway from China or other intermediate destination.

    Banning Chinese citizens was a political move, useless to actually reduce a virus to travel to the USA, a warm virus going to the USA doesn't care about the nationality of the host. If the travel is more than a literal handful of carriers, it makes no difference with a virus as contagious as this Coronavirus, the 100s of thousands of potential carriers we allowed to come in, the USA was screwed.
     
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    Thanks.

    Myself, I don't blame anybody. A nasty virus emerged. The US is doing better than some and worse than others. Most everyone will get infected and there is nothing a potus can do to change that.

    In the final analysis, about .5% of the population of temperate zone countries are going to succumb.
     
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    Did President Wilson fail to protect America during the Spanish Flu epidemic?
     
  21. Patricio Da Silva

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    And your point is?
     
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    It's a simple question. You're blaming Trump for a global pandemic impacting us, did President Wilson similarly fail to protect the US at that time? A yes or no would suffice. That was 625,000 US deaths out of a population half our size.
     
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    1. Not blaming Trump for the pandemic, but I am asserting he did a poor job responding to it, which could conceivably lead to more deaths than otherwise have occurred if someone more responsible were president.

    2. If that is your point then what Wilson did, or did not do, is irrelevant to whatever Trump did, or did not do.
     
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    and so you are implying that someone who is not independent is not capable of criticism of someone in their own party?

    If so, that's a falsehood. I criticized Bill Clinton for signing Gramm–Leach–Bliley and I criticized Bush for not repealing it.

    And I'm a liberal.
     
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    As soon as Trump took office he began to take credit for an improving economy that he had no hand in. Yet he can reach back and blame Obama for his lame response to the pandemic and lack of preparedness. Right now I reading a book entitled Defying Hitler. It's about the resistance movement in Germany. As you might except critism of Hitler within the Nazi party was nonexistent. You will note that retribution for any Republican who speaks against Trump is swift indeed. Must not question the fuhrer.
     

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