How to destroy liberty

Discussion in 'Civil Liberties' started by Forseti, Jun 26, 2012.

  1. Forseti

    Forseti New Member

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    You do it incrementally, without buzz-words to get the media's attention and in such small steps the general public won't notice in between "Law and Order" reruns.

    First, you take privacy:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5262068/ns/politics/t/cops-can-demand-id-high-court-rules/#.T-mTwL-F-Pg
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technol...eral-government-spying-private-153556125.html

    A citizen spy network works wonders:

    http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1291648380371.html
    http://patriotapps.com/PatriotApp.html
    http://homeland.house.gov/press-rel...tinued-citizen-involvement-fighting-terrorism

    Control the media and information. A person who thinks he's free doesn't complain he's not:

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/...-claims-it-can-censor-unclassified-materials/
    http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/worse-than-china-us-government-wants-to.html

    Give the police unchecked power:

    http://www.schneier.com/essay-045.html
    http://www.gcglaw.com/resources/municipal/immunity.html
    http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/

    Yes, all of this was going on while people were busy discussing Britney Spears, the latest slip of the tongue by a politician, or critiquing last night's football scores. These are the articles Americans should be worried about, yet they get buried beneath trivial hot button issues like abortion and racism. It's pathetic. You get the government you deserve....
     
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    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    Oh, it's even easier. Just promise people a comfortable life on the plantation.
     
  3. Forseti

    Forseti New Member

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    That's one way of looking at it....
     
  4. Diogenes Lantern

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    Our biggest abusers of personal freedom is of course, government.

    a special interest group may want certain laws passed that gives them or their group special privelages
    and when the unfair bill or law is passed, you - who are not within the group of people that GETS, are doomed to be in the group that PAYS. you really get nothing for nothing, somebody has to pay

    government is the only group that has the *right* to threaten to beat you up if you do not participate in life in the manner that THEY tell you to. and there are thousands of examples.

    if you smoke marijuana, you can go to jail (beat you up)
    if you do not want to pay taxes because the "redistribution" of your monies will go to people/causes that you despise, the government can, once again, throw you in jail (beat you up)

    so essentially American's biggest threat to their liberty and freedom is government. they can "enslave you" per se by taxing the tar out of you and making sure only *other people* than your ilk get your monies redistributed to them.

    yeah, slavery. liberty is gone, *poof*
     
  5. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    It is very simple in the US. All that is required is indulging the moral turpitude of bearing false witness to our own laws on the part of our own elected representatives.
     
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    One of the best ways is to pass laws making it a crime for people to be able to protect and defend themselves.

    might take a look at this thread:
    another freedom taken away: "Resisting Arrest"

    The next step is to intimidate opposition political groups by making trumped up charges against some of the party leaders.
     
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    danielpalos Banned

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    Should there be strict liability for making laws that are found to be unconstitutional?
     
  8. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    That has already been done by Joe McCarthy.
     
  9. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    It seems like people not knowing what rights are is a way to lose them.

    Ask anybody under 25 years of age where our rights come from.
     
  10. danielpalos

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    Some of it just needs to be litigated. I never agreed to delegate some the social Powers being misused through process.
     
  11. RICHARDD

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    And SLAVES deserve TYRANNY!

    LOSS of privacy: neural microchip implantation of the population, audio and visual "bugging" of residences, peephole cameras, surveillance drones, two-way televisions and mirrors, infra-red cameras, electro-magnetic brainwave sensors, X-ray eyeglasses.

    "Citizen" SPY networks: fusion centers, "neighborhood" watch groups, cell-phone and I-pod trackers with V-chips, po-lice informants, po-lice "perps" or "situation" inciters (otherwise known as "instigators"), apartment residence "monitors", gangs, "psychotherapists", telephone operators, librarians and booksellers.

    CONTROL of events info media: CNN. Enough said.

    UNCHECKED POLICE POWER: false arrests; unwarranted shootings and killings; IMPLICITLY AUTOMATIC credit of their court testimony; capability to alter, manipulate, and otherwise modify criminal history records through omission, erasure, additions etc; TOTAL latitude to MISapply the law in formulating a criminal charge; OVERT and UNpunished vehicular traffic violations; not to mention of course simple brutality known in the legal jargon as "excessive use of force".

    Just keep on singing "Ooops, they did it again!" poople.,
     
  12. Ndividual

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    Just giving elected politicians and their agency appointees free rein over the governed seems to be accomplishing that quite efficiently.
     

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