How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

So? My point still stands! Regardless of the FORM of life support, if someone is taken off it, then that is a natural death!

 

Wow...apparently you are just a big bag of contradictions.

Christianity does that to people.....your Bibles abound with it.

 

Then you are ok with taking a feeding tube away from a person that is not brain dead. why?

 

And again we are back, like a yoyo to late term abortions even though the vast majority are for foetal abnormality incompatible with life.

Or do you honestly think so little of women to believe they would go through nine months of pregnancy then kill a viable foetus?

 

Define evil

 

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WTF! So what?!! Talk about a total NON point....a completely meaningless, pointless statement relating to abortion....

 

What about partial evil humans ?

And who decides who and what IS "evil".?

 

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Because people in comas are BORN people with rights and fetuses are not...very simple..

 

Duh, because they are BORN people with rights.

 

And milk can be blue...………………..

 

The other case is a living human (kept alive by a machine at this point) who ceases to have significant brain function. The person is no longer considered living by the medical community. The plug is pulled and the dirt nap begins.

 

Abounds with what?

 

Contradictions.....You either have difficulty in English comprehension or purposefully act ignorant. I suppose now is where you begin asking about biblical contradiction, I then point a few out and you deny them before claiming I am attacking Christians......go ahead, i'm used to it by now.

 

I am just telling you the way things are. When significant brain function stops - medicine no longer considers that person a living human.
In all cases if this person were taken off some machine - this persons heart would no longer beat. Perhaps you consider this person a living human but, the medical community does not.

We can make a frog's leg move after it dies by imparting an electric current - does this mean the frog is alive ? The human cells in a dead person will live for quite some time... the person however is dead.

A person in a coma still has significant brain function - they do not need a machine to keep them alive. Loss of significant brain function means your brain has shut down. Your brain is not able to send impulses to the body to maintain basic function (such as breathing). Take the life support away and the person will not take another breath.

 

You can do your own research on the opium epidemic.

Stop dodging; would you support laws banning abortion?

 

Talking hypothetically is not very helpful. Are you able to re-articulate your point but this time in a straightforward way?

He is right, though. He did not advocate killing just any human. He wanted to kill bad people. There is nothing wrong with this.

What's so important about having been born?

Why do you think laws are always right?

 

So....If the Mother considers the ZEF to be bad?

 

When one is born one becomes separate from the woman one was in. One can now function without using the woman's body.

To quote YOU : """You should not answer a question with another question.""

...especially when I NEVER said I think all laws are right....

 

Well, we're on page 70 of "How to Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate" and it certainly looks like, for some, it isn't resolved...

 

I wasn't talking about the ZEF. I was merely pointing out that there was an error in your post: "So...you rebel against killing human cells but advocate killing whole Humans?", post # 1372. You implied that he wanted to kill humans indiscriminately when he did not. At least that was the impression I got.

But you raised a very good point. Different people can have different ideas of what "evil" is.

 

Define "bad people" because if someone grabbed you off of the street and started hooking you up to a machine in order to keep themselves alive longer - would you consider them a "bad person"?

I really reallly love that so many consider the unborn more important than the born. If you want to "save babies" then there are plenty of charities providing life sustaining food fo starving shildren and they are looking for donations

 

I agree with you that there can be many different ideas about what constitutes evil/bad. However, once the society does manage to reach a consensus (probably after a very long time and a lot of arguments), then yes, bad people should be killed.

 

Humans have been around for thousands and thousands of years without a consensus on what constitutes evil.

Why do you think they will now?

You forgot this question: ""Define "bad people" because if someone grabbed you off of the street and started hooking you up to a machine in order to keep themselves alive longer - would you consider them a "bad person"?"""

 

I am not trying to convince people how easy it is to define evil/bad. My point is that, bad people should be killed.