How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Meta777, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Same thing as what society thinks.
     
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    Would you make a distinction if the attack led to the death of the fetus?
     
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    Don't get you hopes up. This is a question they will go to any lengths to dance around.

    All they'll say is it's an assault on the woman.
     
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    In which case they would have to say that it should be a standard assault charge, with nothing to do with the unborn life!
     
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    No, they'll just say it was a more serious assault on the woman, because her body was more affected.

    (They won't say it directly, but presumably that either means the miscarriage affected her body, or they believe the fetus is a part of her body. Both of which views are illogical.)
     
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    The fetus being part of the body would be too easy to to argue against as they would also have to consider the attack worse if she had a tumor!
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    """""the miscarriage affected her body, or they believe the fetus is a part of her body"""

    NO, both views are quite logical and factual...
     
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    That's so hilarious and ironic coming from you !

    What is this question you believe "they" are dancing around?



    Uhhh, ya, an assault on a woman is an assault on a woman.....and women are the ones who get pregnant.


    Did you come up with a point yet ?
     
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    Because she wanted the fetus to become a child! If I shoot myself is it the same as someone else doing it
     
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    No. The crime is the violent act against the woman. Claiming the fetus is a person - such that a crime was committed against contradicts other legislation which does not recognize personhood of the fetus. Such contradiction would then be an anathema to the principles of Justice.
     
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    What about @FoxHastings' point, that it would stop her from making her own choice about whether or not to have the baby?
     
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    Where do you draw the line?

    There are already multiple cases of women who have had foetal deaths and miscarriages charged with murder
     
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    As in the woman was charged with murder? What cases were these?
     
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    To believe that it is homicide is simply to believe that the fetus is a human!
     
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    Democrats argued state's rights to have slavery. Now democrats argue women's rights to justify killing babies. Why do you need to hide behind such arguments to justify such atrocities?
     
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    The line for what?
     
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    I think she's referring to gestation and level of evidence.
     
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    If society thinks something, why do they need courts to overrule the law?
     
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