How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    By "Anti-Choicers do not have a "normal" stance." I mean I don't think Ant-Choicers stance is mentally normal..


    I haven't taken a survey but YOU seem to think women should get away with murder...
     
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    Then what did you mean by this """Greatest risk of serious permanent injury or death? Surely you can't be serious."""""


    That indicates that you do NOT believe women risk serious permanent injury or death....

    If you care to explain how your use of English is totally different from everyone else's and that isn't what you meant then please feel free to explain more clearly...
     
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    No, it indicates that I believe that women ARE MORE LIKELY TO risk serious permanent injury or death FROM A BLACK MARKET ABORTION than PREGNANCY.
     
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    You STILL do NOT understand what pregnancy entails and the relationship of the fetus to the woman it's in. You seem to think the fetus is just floating unattached inside the woman...it itn't.



    The slave owner is not physically attached to the slave like a fetus is attached to and using the body of the woman.

    Ya know, the difference is obvious ….I think you just are , I don't know, lonely? and keep asking the same questions out of boredom....

    I don't know anyone else who is confused about the difference between baking a cake and being attached to a woman and growing in her body, using her body to sustain life...


    "Deserve" has no part in this discussion.

    Except for maybe women don't deserve to be used as breeding cattle.

    Women don't deserve to have the right to their own body taken away and FORCED to sustain the life of another which NO ONE else has to do.


    Yes, but you keep leaving out the person who HIRED the hitman....

    You were schooled in the FACT that the person who hired the hitman is charged the same as the hitman.

    You squirmed and wriggled around it by saying they wouldn't be charged with murder but they will be charged the same.

    Did you forget we HAD this conversation?

    It wasn't that long ago.....(?????)
     
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    Not any more..


    It used to be that way but even if abortion is banned most women will have much better care than they used to...not all of them ,of course, and wealthy women will have the best care.



    But all that said, since pregnancy offers the greater risk and most severe damage I think people who want to FORCE women to endure pregnancy are misogynistic fiends...
     
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    Okay, so... slaves are NOT the same as women if abortion was banned?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    The slave owner is not physically attached to the slave like a fetus is attached to and using the body of the woman.

    Ya know, the difference is obvious



    That is an awkward sentence but...

    THAT is another topic from being physically attached and using one's body to sustain the life of another...

    Do think it would be OK for someone to force you to give them a kidney to sustain their life?.


    2nd topic:

    Taking away a person's right to their own body IS slavery.
     
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    @FoxHastings, you STILL haven't answered this question! How late in the term do you think women should have the right to choose?
     
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    How late in the term do you think women should have the right to choose?


    Do think it would be OK for someone to force you to give them a kidney to sustain their life?.
     
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    Okay, so clearly you think that it should be up until the point of birth which means that you think that Roe v Wade didn't go far enough.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    How late in the term do you think women should have the right to choose?


    Do think it would be OK for someone to force you to give them a kidney to sustain their life?.



    This is what I mean by you should READ the posts you quote first.

    Your reply had NOTHIG to do with the post of mine you quoted.
    Questions you avoided:

    How late in the term do you think women should have the right to choose?


    Do think it would be OK for someone to force you to give them a kidney to sustain their life?.
     
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    Would you still avoid answering it?
     
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    They wouldn't, but what does that have to do with the existence of pregnancy tests?
     
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    :roflol: Don't you realise that you avoided my question FIRST? I asked you, "how late in the term do you think women should have the right to choose?" And all you did was ask MY question back to me! And now YOU challenge ME for avoiding MY OWN question that you asked me? Are you serious?
     
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    It really does seem that you are saying that if abortion was illegal, women would be the SAME as slaves, but they would also be DIFFERENT from slaves. Is this correct?
     
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    Why not all of them?
     
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    No, I am fully aware that it is NOT "just floating unattached inside the woman!" Thanks for telling me though!

    I wasn't "schooled" in anything. I was already aware that the person who hires a hitman is charged with conspiracy to commit murder or accessory to murder. I'm just saying that I wouldn't treat a woman ordering an abortion in the same way, if abortion was illegal.
     
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    :) No point, no argument, no ANSWERS there....empty pouty post...
     
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    I'm sorry but I don't ever think you're going to get this.


    Yes, IF women have the right to their own body taken away it is EXACTLY the same as slavery.

    They would be no different from the slaves of the 19th century....they didn't have the right to their own bodies and neither will women if abortion is banned.


    THE END.

    That has NOTHING to do with a baker. NOTHING.
     
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    NOT if you say things like :

    ""But a slave IS "being forced to give his circulatory system, his immune system or any part of his body to sustain the life of another?"""

    .....as if that's the same as being pregnant and sustaining another's life by being physically attached ...it isn't ….and it's obvious it isn't.



    :)

    Obviously you weren't schooled or you'd know the facts by now ..



    WHY would you allow women to get away with murder?

    What would be the POINT of making abortion illegal ?

    I've asked that before and NEVER got an answer.

    WHY make abortion illegal if the perpetrators are not charged and punished?

    Just to waste taxpayer's money getting abortion banned for no reason??? WTF....why can't you answer that?????



     
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    People can secretly detect and terminate a pregnancy, making abortion laws useless and unenforceable.
     
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    Terminate how?
     
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    Uh, are you serious? THAT was a question that I asked you! It was NOT a statement!

    Do you honestly think that I was trying to equate slaves and pregnant women? Even if you do, you should AGREE with me! After all, YOU are the one who has been trying desperately to equate salves and pregnant women if abortion was illegal!

    The same way that I would allow anyone to get away with murder, if all they did was order and arrange the murder. Because it isn't murder! It is conspiracy to commit murder or accessory to murder!

    So that lives are not taken.

    Actually these questions have been asked AND ANSWERED about a million times at this point! You just don't like the answers!

    AGAIN, have I NOT said that the abortionist should be charged and punished?

    How exactly would it waste taxpayer's money ?

     
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    How would you say that slaves had the right to their body taken away?
     
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