How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

The same reason that the death of a BORN life is a bad thing.

Even the murder of someone that you don't know?

 

Well I'm not saying that it SHOULD be done, I am simply arguing that Roe v Wade is not entirely constitutional. Roe v Wade invoked the Constitution to say that making it a crime to assist a woman to get an abortion violates her due process. Fair enough, but where the hell in the Constitution does it say that a government must allow abortion to take place in its hospitals? Abortion is a woman's RIGHT? NO! Not being charged with a criminal offense for having an abortion is a woman's RIGHT! I know, that wouldn't make AS good a slogan!

Well they would need to way up their options wouldn't they? Either risk an abortion which is free from professional care and oversight, or actually have the kid! Are you going to deny that abortions with professional care and oversight have made it especially easy for women to be careless in risking pregnancy?

What do you mean?

Is there a reason that you posted this extract from the article?

 

Why is that a "GREAT" thing? Are you a sadistic freak or something?

 

Firstly YES YOU ARE saying that or you are simply posting to get reaction...that is called TROLLING.

Secondly....RvW IS constitutional and was in fact decided by the SCOTUS we have changed with guaranteeing it.

Finally and again...Abortion does not take place in a hospital which is why ABORTION CLINICS we developed.

 

What reason is that?

Yes, it doesn't matter if everyone knows every murder victim , if murder isn't controlled everyone is effected by the chaos eventually..



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Because death of unborn lives is a bad thing."""""



Why?

 

It's a legal medical procedure so it should be done in government hospitals....if it isn't it's discrimination..

NO, A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO HER OWN BODY JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS WOMEN'S RIGHT.

I leave slogans to Anti-Choicers and Reagan lover's because they have nothing else...

WTF!! Did you read that? YOU wrote it...UP their options when options have been cut off! There are only TWO options...how do you UP that???WTF, you do NOT read what you post...

REALLY? That's "upping their options....do you know what UPPING means ???

YES! I will deny that...…. Prove otherwise....and DUH, being careless is NOT a crime....even though Anti-Choicers WANT to make women criminals...

 

No, that would be a person who wants to punish women for having consensual sex and getting pregnant....an Anti-Choicer...

 

It's a medical procedure that helps millions of women. Do you hate women?

 

It could potentially make a few inconvenient. Since abortion statistics would no longer be available, you can celebrate a zero% abortion rate without accomplishing anything or actually making a difference.

 

The Zef - or at least the DNA in the Zef has control.

 

There is no such thing as "unborn lives" in the early stages of pregnancy.

 

Why not? Because YOU PERSONALLY don't see value in the life until later?

 

When you can prove that a zygote is a living human .. then you can make the defacto claim that zygotes are "unborn lives".

Until then - spare me the fallacious gibberish.

 

Just "inconvenient?" It doesn't sound as if you think that it would make much difference at all.

 

Do you think that every single women throughout history that has had an abortion would actually describe it as a "great thing?" Surely you can't be serious.

 

How is not wanting unborn lives to die being sadistic?

 

Why would you have it if you don't want it? A tooth extraction is also a great thing though I am not sure you are going to love the procedure.

 

Yes, it is a legal medical procedure, obviously! I'm arguing that having it done in hospitals is not in the Constitution! Again, Roe v Wade invoked the Constitution to say that making it a crime to assist a woman to get an abortion violates her due process. Yet somehow this meant that a government must allow abortion to take place in its hospitals, which makes no sense whatsoever.

Mistake. I should've said that they would need to weigh up their options. And yes, there would only be two options, the same number of option that there is now.

I didn't say that I could prove it, but if unsafe abortions were the only option, why the hell would women be AS careless getting pregnant as they are now?

Surely by now you know that I do not want to make women criminals!

 

Why would you not want abortions to take place in a hospital? That makes no sense

 

You wouldn't, but why the hell does WANTING it mean that you have to think that it is a "great thing?"

Are you calling abortion a great thing or the death of the unborn life?

 

Its not about me it is about government. Why do you think that certain state governments didn't have abortion prior to Roe v Wade?

 

Look if you really want a medical procedure and you finally get it you will say that is a GREAT thing. Millions of women get abortions....they must want them and are relieved when they get them. That is a great thing

And the unborn life better be dead.....or get your money back!

 

Now you are changing the subject from hospitals to state government.

State governments at one time did not want black kids and white kids in the same schools either. State governments were wrong then in both cases

 

Well I believe that killing people is immoral. Why do YOU believe that it is bad?

But how does murder affect you?

 

How can you say that when I have not actually said it?

So which article of the Constitution says that a government must allow abortion to take place in its health system?

Sorry, I meant health system.