How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Uh DUH, that answer would be in the post you quoted but obviously did NOT read :

FoxHastings said: ↑
No, that would be a person who wants to punish women for having consensual sex and getting pregnant....an Anti-Choicer...""""""

 

LOL! So you think since those who wrote the Constitution didn't say, write out, that abortions must be performed in hospitals women have no right to have abortions in hospitals...how ASSinine and hilariously stupid...

ONLY to you.... shrug...

Mistake. I should've said that they would need to weigh up their options. And yes, there would only be two options, the same number of option that there is now.

What makes you say that women ARE careless now?


How would YOU know how careless or not women are? ANSWER; YOU DON'T.....

Why should they change?

Are MEN going to become less careless?

Has there been a time in history when HUMANS have been less "careless" ?

When abortion was illegal did it stop or even slow down abortions?

AGAIN : WHO ELSE HAS ABORTIONS ??????


WHAT OTHER LAW BREAKERS DO YOU WANT TO GET AWAY WITH THEIR CRIMES?

What other murderers do you think should get away with murder?


And , a question you NEVER answered ( one of MANY) WHY do you want women to get away with abortion ?


YOU HAVE NEVER ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

No matter what you call it IF it's a CRIME why don't you want women punished for committing a crime ?

Any other law breakers you want protected??

 

Uh moving goalposts...fetuses are not people...but at least you FINALLY answered.....

So you must really hate war and do everything you can to stop it , right?

I answered here: """Yes, it doesn't matter if everyone knows every murder victim , if murder isn't controlled everyone is effected by the chaos eventually..""







How does abortion affect you?





How many days will I have to wait for an answer ??

 

No, , because "every single woman" is a silly statement.... women do not all think alike.

I bet most women felt relief at not having an unwanted pregnancy and baby....(that's why they have abortions)

 

Why because YOU PERSONALLY see value in life earlier?

 

You are correct. It will make no difference.

 

Every women would take the risk of a potentially LETHAL abortion? You honestly believe that?

 

Correct.

 

And now we are back to YOUR PERSONAL opinion!

Of course I hate war.

Sure, you would be affected by the eventual chaos, but when you hear about a child who is killed by their parent, does that affect you at all?

In the same way that I am sure that a child being killed by their parent affects you.

 

Its not punishing them, it is just reducing their options. Again, getting pregnant is THEIR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! No one elses!

 

No, not at all. I'm just asking for a RELEVANT piece of the Constitution! Is there one?

Also, as @tecoyah rightly points out, abortions in the US are not performed in hospitals, but in abortion clinics, so I need to correct myself there.

Because they get pregnant without wanting to get pregnant. Pretty simple really. That certainly fits MY definition of carelessness!

If they don't want to get pregnant and go through the often emotionally painful process of abortion.

Do men get pregnant too now?

I would certainly say so. Before the invention of the condom, the pill and before the ease of abortion, are you going to pretend that people were as sexually careless as they are now?

Of course it didn't stop abortions, but it certainly made having one less appealing didn't it?

Again, I wouldn't classify women as law breakers if they had an abortion if it was illegal.

Because I wouldn't see it as a crime. If it wasn't a crime, then the women won't have done anything wrong that they NEED to get away with!

Oh, but you HAVE answered MY question from earlier in the thread? Note that I have successfully answered these questions from your last reply,
but you have YET to say how late in the term you think that women should be able to chose!

But I DON'T think it should be a crime!

 

The state governments control the health system in the state.

 

What other medical procedure results in the death of a human life?

 

Does it have to be considered a "living human" in order to be considered a life?

 

The death of a brain dead patient. A non viable fetus is brain dead

 

Medical procedures should be performed in a medical setting

 

How is that? Explain why you think that......

And why do you insist we feel the same?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Uh DUH, that answer would be in the post you quoted but obviously did NOT read :

FoxHastings said: ↑
No, that would be a person who wants to punish women for having consensual sex and getting pregnant....an Anti-Choicer...""""""

Uh, DUH, that IS punishment. That's what we do to people who commit crimes, we jail them and "reduce their options".



When you eliminate the option of abortion there are no "OPTIONS" ( "OPTIONS" mean there's a choice....do you know what "OPTION" means, doesn't look like it ! )whatsoever for women with unwanted pregnancies.....the fiendish, sick goal of Anti-Choicers..



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YES, IT IS SO WHY DO YOU THINK THEIR PREGNANCY IS YOUR BUSINESS OR ANYONE ELSE'S ???

 

So you are Pro-Choice, you do NOT want abortion made illegal !!! WTF! You sure don't talk like you do.....are you confused???




BTW, there has been a form of condoms since the ancient Egyptians...and yes, humans have always been "careless" about having sex... that's what normal humans do, have sex......only people who have a "low-to-no" sex drive seem to think humans can or should stop having sex.....or sexists who think women should stop having sex but not men..

 

Depends on how the term is used. If one says "its a human life" - No If one says "the life of a human" Yes.

Obviously the zygote is human life ... as is the sperm and every other human cell.

Claiming " life of the unborn" - infer's "life of a human". This is why this is disingenuous misuse of language. In order for the life of a human to exist - a human must exist.

 

Where did you come up with that? Abortion laws would only create a demand for medical tourism, black market abortions, and abortion drugs. Ineffective and unenforceable. If you care about the lives of unwanted children, there are thousands who will never see the inside of a loving home. Go adopt one!

 

Which you think would be JUST as effective as it is currently?

 

That's all that the anti-abortion argument requires.

 

How's that working for you?

 

Very well thank you.