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How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Meta777, Aug 4, 2018.

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have an opinion, but not a uterus. I will keep my opinion out of uteri.
     
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    If you have no opinion worth posting why are you posting?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You missed a very important point. Opinions should never be forced onto others. The right to your opinion ends where her uterus begins.
     
    Doofenshmirtz, Jan 7, 2019
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    That's your opinion.

    I have the same right to my opinion as you have to yours.

    What is it about lefties that makes them think only their opinions matter?
     
    MAGA, Jan 7, 2019
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    Sure, but you can still express your opinion, right?
     
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    Okay, but would you say that it should be legal?
     
    chris155au, Jan 7, 2019
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    Would you say this if I just thought that abortion should be illegal, but didn't say that I "cared" necessarily?
     
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    That you , as usual, don't have a point...:)
     
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    That is solely determined by the one who is pregnant.
     
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    Fetuses are aborted NOT babies, not toddlers, not teenagers, not the elderly.

    Stages of life have names and fetuses are aborted. A baby can't be aborted because it has been born.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    I can't believe I have to explain this to an adult(and I doubt I am) but once the birth process starts there is no stopping it.

    It isn't legal since the fetus is born, in the process of birth , unstoppable, it cannot be put back in, it is a BIRTH.


    I have explained this....if you can't get it that's on you …

    A long time ago I asked you to help yourself by reading a biology book explaining what "birth" is.....I can't make you do that and you will never understand until you educate yourself...


    So, until you can come up with a point, this is really boring trying to explain "the sun comes up in the east" to someone who can't get it.
     
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    Alright, I just thought that you were saying that the baby needs to be totally separated from the woman's body.
     
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    Do tax payers pay for abortion in the US? @Renee doesn't seem to think so.
     
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    Considering you didn't say that I was wrong to assume that you are bothered when you hear about kids being murdered by their parents, I have to assume that I am completely correct!
     
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    What value do you place in people, if any?
     
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    Do all people have the same value?
     
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    I would say that there is a certain default value in children which is the same, but for adults, no, obviously some adults are worthless.
     
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    Is it possible there are some worthless children? How else did we get worthless adults? Who decides someone's worth?
     
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    When the child grows up and makes the wrong life choices.

    It's obviously subjective, but I think that we can all agree that a career criminal isn't worth much.
     
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    But again, who decides one's worth? You, me? Do we execute those "career criminals"? "Subjective" doesn't really fill the bill here. As a society decisions can't be made "subjectively". I guess you see where I am going with this? In the end who decides a person's worth, their value? Does life have more value at different stages? A group of people are about to die and you have a chance to save just one, which one do you save? The father, the mother, the child? The old man, the young woman, the person of God. Or just the closest one to you?
     
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    Again, it is subjective, but I think that we can all agree that Hitler wasn't a very valuable person.

    You mean via capital punishment? Well yes, in certain parts of the world.

    I think that most people would save the closest one to them. I know I would!
     
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    That's a lot of ASSuming.....based on nothing...with no point...
     
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    Oh? Someone at some time though he was valuable...in fact thousands did...


    Yes, and that would be YOU placing your own value on someone.
     
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    Richard The Last said: ↑
    Is it possible there are some worthless children? How else did we get worthless adults?


    Children are considered worthless , invaluable, when they are taken from their parents and put in dog kennels because they are poor, brown, and desperate.......someone did NOT "VALUE" their lives.

    Their lives have no value according to those who caged THEM.

    He may be valued by his boss, his mother , his wife, his girlfriends, his kids, his cousins, his employees....
     
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    Who decides that? You?
     
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