How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you're done falsely projecting a political party on me and inventing arguments I never made, you can challenge my actual position of not allowing government involvement in what people decide to do with their own bodies.

    Your right to an opinion ends where her uterus begins.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I already think that about you.
     
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    I didn't mention a political party.

    I didn't ask you for your permission to have an opinion.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you inferred that I was left handed? I am not a lefty in any sense of the word. Where did I say you couldn't have an opinion. You don't need a forum to invent arguments to have with yourself.

    Abortion is legal.
    Abortion laws failed long before the internet, pee sticks, and abortion drugs.
    How can you defend a position that has already been proven a failure?
     
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    Every law fails to stop all offenses. Didn't you know that? There are still laws against killing born people, too.. Has it stopped all murders?

    They unborn slaughtering has skyrocketed since it became a government protected and subsided business.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    Except that no one is arguing to abolish laws against murder, rape, etc. Murderers must be separated from society because they are a threat to others. Those who have had abortions are not. Why do you keep inventing things to argue with?

    Please qualify your statement in bold.
     
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    Sure, but you can still express your opinion, right?

    Do you care about precious little lives that are born?
     
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    No, it is obviously subjective, but I think that everyone can agree that rapists are worthless.
     
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    What about in hindsight?

    Yes it would.
     
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    Well it is based on my assessment that you are a good person. Am I wrong?
     
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    Expressing ones opinion and forcing it on others in the form of laws are two different things. Caring has many levels. Some only care enough to enter text on forums, while others spend a good part of their life providing care. Between these two extremes are all levels of caring.
     
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    Of course. So you should be able to express whether or not rape abortion is unnecessary if it doesn't endanger the mothers life and you should be able to express it without "forcing it on others in the form of laws."

    The fact is that you don't think that it should be legal for parents to kill their kids, right?
     
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    A woman may get an abortion regardless of whether or not others deem it unnecessary. A rape victim may decide to keep the baby. All opinions other than hers are irrelevant.

    No one is arguing for killing children.
     
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    You or someone stated that there were abortions when abortion was illegal, which made Right to Life laws a failure.

    Those that kill their parents to get their inheritance aren't necessarily a danger to society, but we still put them in jail.... IOW - No, we don't put murderers in jail only because they are a danger to society. We also put murderers in jail to discourage murder.

    Are you saying you don't think abortions skyrocketed in states where abortion was made legal by Roe v Wade?
     
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    You don't think that pro-lifer's consider abortion as killing children?
     
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    Lots of Pro-Aborts probably consider it killing children too, but don't care.
     
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    Oh? They may have parents, siblings, friends who don't think they're worthless...
     
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    I mean worthless to society and the betterment of the world.
     
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    What about in foresight? What about if you saw it in a crystal ball ?

    It doesn't matter, at one time SOME valued Hitler.


    And that's your right just as it's other people's right to place their idea of value on other's lives....
     
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    Your assessment of me is irrelevant to me and the topic....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Oh? They may have parents, siblings, friends who don't think they're worthless...



    Then you are, as usual, moving the goal posts from "valuing life" to ""worthless to society and the betterment of the world""....
     
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    For those who refuse to provide care for these precious little lives, their real title is "pro-self-image" not pro-life. No one cares what they think.
     
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    It's great to have you hear to say what people you don't know really should be called.

    Since you don't care for children at all, what should your title be? "Anti-Baby"?
     
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    No one is arguing to reverse the law on murder or rape, but you aren't arguing to reverse the law on abortion, one of the reasons being that it wouldn't stop abortion even though it is no different to rape and murder in that a law against it wouldn't stop all occurrences.
     
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