How to handle a DUI Checkpoint.

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  1. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I actually had a Police Officer ask me the question; 'Is this your Car', while holding my Drivers Licenses, Registration and Insurance Card!

    It was all I can do from saying ... "No ... it's my Daddy's Car". :mrgreen:

    Aaa the Joys of Driving While Black in America. :-D
     
  2. devilsadvocate

    devilsadvocate New Member

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    Never lie to the police. that IS A CRIME, either answer questions with questions, or don't say anything.
     
  3. dudeman

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    is that if your car is a particular number in a "random" DUI check, the police do have the right to pull you over due to random statistics. I have a hard time believing what I've seen. The police knew they were on videotape and were presumably able to establish that the driver did appear sober from the onslaught of questions. It probably also helps that both cops appeared young and might have been intimidated by the situation with regard to civil liberties violations.

    I'm not sure this works for everyone and everywhere and I wouldn't recommend it. I tried the "mind your business pig" approach back in my teens or early 20's and it resulted in detainment and dropped charges. Of course, I never carried a videocamera either.
     
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    They can look in your immediate area. They are not allowed to search your car without your consent. I would NEVER give consent for a search especially if i am innocent. Just stay courteous. May i search your car. no sir. If you do'nt allow me to search your car i'll have to call the dogs in. call their bluff. Do not allow them to search your car especially if you have nothing to hide. It is illegal search and police officers laugh at your dumb *** later on at the station when you give up your rights.
     
  5. BullsLawDan

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    Yup. I say to my students all the time: Half of the court cases out there wouldn't exist if criminals were smart.
     
  6. Polar Bear

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    DUI laws differ greatly from state to state, but here is what I would think someone should do if he or she is over the limit, but not wasted:

    1) Don't volunteer information other than your name and address. Be SILENT.

    2) Refuse ALL sobriety tests, breathalyzers, etc.

    3) By the time you get to jail, your BAC will have lowered substantially, in case the police subpoena a blood sample (highly unlikely) or coerce you into blowing at the station.

    4) Refuse to blow at the police station until the next morning when you are released. (In some states blowing 0.00000 is required for anyone charged with alcohol related offenses before release from jail).

    5) Your drivers license may or may not be suspended for 6 months.


    -They will have no tangible, physical evidence that you were "driving while impaired". The only evidence they will have is what the arresting officer thought he saw or smelled on your breath.

    -Your second charge, "failure to submit to a sobriety exam", is your only serious charge at this point. You avoid the DUI, but get slammed with the "failure to comply XYZ..." In any event it is much better to fight this than a full blown DUI where the police have positive breathalyzer tests and field sobriety exam results to use against you.

    -Either way, you'll need a lawyer.
     
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    that is exactly what i did. they had no evidence against me, and I walked.
     
  8. Polar Bear

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    Interesting...
     
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    well i walked from the DUI charges, the court still got there money. I was convicted of improper lane usage, and fined a lot for it.
     
  10. PatrickT

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    Cigar: Quote: Originally Posted by PatrickT
    Sorry, Cigar, but the police do not have to prove anything. They have to have reasonable cause to believe. Then, off your go to the pokey. There is a blood or breath test, which you can't refuse, to establish whether or not you have alcohol in your system. You stay in jail until you've sobered up. You hire and attorney and spend a few thousand dollars. You face public embarrassment. And, somewhere down the way, you go to court.

    The best course of action in dealing with DUI roadblocks is to arrive sober. No alcohol, no pills, no marijuana. Drive sober and worry less."

    "Having a FOP Sticker from the Local State Lodge with a personal Business Card from the Secretary of State doesn’t hurt either.

    Everyone has their own stories ... I just happen have stories directly from Police Officer I know.

    Different strokes for different folks ...

    Here in Illinois, we have a stupid Law of requiring a front License Plate ... and I have a 1999 Corvette that has "never" had one and I Roll through Road Blocks all the time.

    So ... no Officer ... I don't Drink ... next question."

    And, your stories are so amamzingly pointless and I really question whether or not you have a friend...police officer or otherwise. You just roll through roadblocks all the time. I guess that's the advantage you get for "driving while black" isn't it?
     
  11. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep ... and having an extra 420 + FP RW Torque isn't bad either ... sport.

    [​IMG]

    Don't worry ... the smoke will be out of your eyes soon.
     
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    DUI Checkpoints should be illegal imo, while I would not do what this guy did, even though technically he had every right too do

    a cop should always need probable cause.....
     
  13. PatrickT

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    You're so cute. Shame there isn't a market outside of DC for bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    The best course of action in dealing with a DUI roadblock is this: Between 30 and 45 MPH, cut the wheel 90 degrees left & yank the e-brake. When the car rotates past 90 degrees, start straightening the wheel. At about 135 degrees, release the e-brake & pin the throttle. The back end of the car will want to keep going...countersteer to correct, ease off on the throttle to stop the tirespin. If done properly, this maneuver (usually called a bootlegger's turn) will reverse a car's direction of travel in approximately 50'.

    Note: this may require a bit of practice.
    Note also: it is FUN! :D

    Might be fun to try in a Corvette. :D
     
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    Have Wheels ... will travel! ;)
     
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    If they think I've been drinking, and they won't believe me, I request a breathalyser since I know I don't drink. This works great in WA State because it gives me the opportunity to prove I'm sober.

    It does not work well in Oregon though. Because in Oregon they don't have a breathalyser in their car. In Oregon, the breathalyser is at the police station or county jail. So no breathalyser possible until AFTER you're arrested. This means in Oregon I cannot prove I'm sober because I'm to handicapped to take a physical sobriety test. I can't walk heel to toe or stand on one foot, etc. Oregon law sucks.
     

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