How to make mass shootings more difficult...

Law Enforcement needs to ask all the teachers. They know who most of the candidates are who may induct themselves into the mass shooter society.

 

Ah, just the answer I was looking for. Now, can the AR-15, in the way it leaves the factory in stock condition, do that?

Now, I'm not going to patronize you, you and I both know what the answer is. The question now lies with what makes the AR-15 an 'assault weapon'.

So here we have the AR-15, some metal dressed up in some scary, black plastic clothing. One pull of the trigger equals one bullet fired, chambered in 5.56, and accepts a detachable magazine.


And here we have the Ruger Mini 14, some metal dressed in non-scary wood. One pull of the trigger equals one bullet fired, chambered in 5.56, and accepts a detachable magazine.


The difference between these rifles is that one appears on every AWB and the other does not. Why is that? How can one be an assault weapon and the other not? They are exactly the same in every way except for cosmetics.

 

Of course I'm serious. I provided a description of the firearm that gun grabbers want to ban because supposedly it's a "weapon of war", which it certainly is not, or an "assault weapon", which it is not. Here's a semi-automatic


Here's another semi-automatic. Note the shroud that makes it look nasty.



In 2017, 403 homicides were committed using rifles ,,, all rifles

That same year, 1591 homicides were committed using knives or cutting instruments, silverware.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

Few things would bring our socialists off the campaign trail and back to Washington. One is abridging rights, guaranteed by our Constitution, that constantly get in the way of their fascist agenda.

 

Are you kidding me? In no state I've been in do you have to show any ID to buy high cap mags, I still get some by mail order. So how did this guy get caught? Who reports to the FBI someone who simply buys these mags? No, if the FBI was tipped off it would have to be a lot more than simply buying a few mags.

 

Which law entirely prevents anything? For gods sake, we have capital punishment and still people murder each other. But i have never heard anyone suggest this reality should make us conclude that having laws against murder are pointless because people still murder eachother.

And YES, you are correct that people try to Circumvent laws.... all laws. But if we take your intention correctly.... you want to have laws that make it nearly impossible to circumvent laws. If that is what you really want, we should make possession or sale of any gun to be illegal.... presumably that is what you are arguing for

 

Each of those guns were bought legally when new

 

We have regulations and laws on owning guns and buying them. It has not stopped anything. Perhaps we should make murder illegal, that'll stop it......derp!

 

The most predictable headline I've seen in days. It has happened again. Mass shooting..........outrage...........promises to do something.......wait for the news cycle to take attention away from the incident.........do nothing..........rinse and repeat. The Conman-in-Chief meets President Flip Flop.

Trump Tells NRA President Not To Fear: Background Checks Are Off The Table
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-nra-background-checks-off-table

 

I cherish having a President who is willing to change his mind. An amazing President.

 

My step sister says it's a big, black, scary looking gun.

 

A few simple changes to the firing mechanisms, the parts are readily available on line, will permit them to go full auto. Practically no one but conspiracy theorists and gun nuts bother since their rate of fire on semi is fine and at 5-600 rounds a minute on full auto, ammo gets mighty expensive. Now let's go to the issue of cosmetics.

I call it the "Rambo factor." Hollywood would NEVER show their endless stream of "Rambos" firing anything as "sporting looking" as the Ruger. It's simply not scary enough. There is a large audience out there, however, that wants scary looking weapons, not sporting arms. These are people with strange daydreams and imaginings of their heroic self either defending their family while shooting the hell out of their residence, or standing in front of the "deep state" to save us all from its nefarious intent. The AR-15 is no sporting rifle, but a weapon. It is also a pos aimed a filling a Rambo wannabe's dreams of --- who knows what.

So your right, it's cosmetics that drive the purchase of AR-15 and AK-47's. They look scary and macho. The fact is, they aren't good for much. Accuracy is iffy and effective range is limited. Most purchasers don't know this, they just wannabe Rambo. These are the folks that sometimes go over the edge with tragic result. All for cosmetics.

 

What makes you think he was ever serious about being a leader by doing something about gun violence? In your heart of hearts don't you think he was always going to flip-flop over his comments about background checks? Repubs always cave to the NRA.

 

Are you saying you think 'looks scary' is actually a justifiable reason to ban something?

 

Which shooter was a member of the NRA? Nikolas Cruz was able to pass a background check because Obama, Holder and Arne Duncan undermined the background check system with their Promise Neighborhood bribes. Connor Betts was able to pass a background check after posting a "Hit List", how?

Patrick Crusius' mother told the police that he was not mentally capable of possessing the gun he bought.

The victims were failed, but not by the NRA or Republicans. They were failed by a Democrat regime and public employees, 90% of whom are Democrats.

 

There are no background checks for gun shows or for private sales. If someone wishes to sell a gun to a person to whom they are not related and do not know I feel a background check would be in order. This does not hurt law abiding gun owners and yet we still hear why we can't do it.

 

The present administration is responsible for this now. I look forward the administration taking steps to fix the shortcomings of the Democrats on this issue.

 

People don’t convert ARs to select fire because they don’t want to go to federal prison.

It’s fascinating watching people who don’t use firearms pretend to understand and analyze behaviors of those that do. Removing firearms such as the AR-15 from the market while leaving the mini-14 would do nothing to stop shootings. The differences between the two firearms are not merely cosmetic. The differences are virtually meaningless to a mass shooter. The differences are huge when it comes to practical everyday use by people like me. Stereotype and misinform all you want, it’s to your disadvantage. It makes banners look ridiculous.

 

No. They’re using the language from a Supreme Court decision. The “not unlimited” language is courtesy of Antonin Scalia.

Another example of our recklessly radical status quo.

 

I did tell you. You bring up things that are already addressed on the OP. For example, you say "they will find a way". Or that this or that can't be "stopped". Of course! That's the whole motive of this thread.

Also addressed on the OP. As a matter of fact, there is a specific example on the OP of how somebody who was forced to "look harder" was caught before they killed anybody.

Again: start by reading the OP. If there is anything you don't understand... ask!

You appear to want me to repeat what is already on the OP. I can think of only two possibilities about people who do that: either they didn't read it, or they're trolling. I'm pretty sure you're not trolling.

 

Thank you Lee for posting this.
God Bless President Trump.

 

But you favor a mandatory "cool down period" and reporting all sales to the FBI. That's better than nothing. Here in Florida you can just go in the store, and come out shooting (figuratively speaking)

Not sure how stopping illegal immigration could help, given that it's one of the demographic groups with least violent behavior. But I'm ok with the rest. Mind you, I do favor a ban on assault weapons and certain type of supplies. We can walk and chew gum. The difference seems to be that my priority is saving lives.

However, most of what you have said has been brought to a halt by the NRA through their "paid for" Congress representatives.

Why would we concentrate on anything? Again: we can walk and chew gum at the same time. You don't hear anything about fighting gang violence simply because the NRA has not chosen to make it a controversial partisan issue. Other than the fact that when we make access to assault weapons more difficult, we also make it more difficult for gang members. And the NRA (through their paid-for right wing lackeys) is against that.

You criticize progressive for what they are "not doing". But it's Republicans who have had control of all branches of government.

 

Awesome, we don’t need anymore gun laws. We already have way too many. Thank god the NRA are lobbying to protect gun rights from leftist loons.

 

So you attribute the crime rate in Chicago to cops being lazy?

 

That is false, everyone who makes their living selling guns has to be a federal licensed firearms dealer and do a background check on every sale regardless of where that sale takes place. Furthermore in many states even a private sale of firearm has to go through an ffl so that a background check can be preformed.

You need to stop listening to Democratic politicians who do not know what they are talking about..

 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/66/text