How to prevent history while not even know why and how it fundamentally happened

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  1. Xanadu

    Xanadu New Member

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    Thus far no society or individual was able to figure out what exactly (fundamentally) caused their history, from Babylon to New York. It kept repeating, and it once again is repeating.

    It was always the destruction of old order to a state of chaos, and from that state of chaos a society ended into a state of new order (often an empire or kingdom)
    When the old order is destroyed it can only become another state of order, a new order, except when a majority can maintain their (old) state of order.

    In for example the UK a majority is trying to maintain their state of order via a conservative vote. But what most British people can't see is that politics is part of the destruction of the old order they want to keep (politics is emotion communication, it increases thinking and communications in the voter, that process is slowly increasing thinking, thus chaos), and the end of politics will end in chaos (except when a majority was at that moment at each level thinkable independent from the system)

    The only way to return back to the pre y2k state of order is to ignore what happened over the past fifteen years, set your mind back to pre y2k situation. In other words, back to the 'future', because a lot of people thought the future would begin in 2000 and beyond (but nobody was aware about the history over the past couple of thousand of years)
     
  2. ChristopherABrown

    ChristopherABrown Well-Known Member

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    The essence of a majority of maintaining their old state of order is the structure of it. Keeping history separate from the power controlling the material written word with it's subtle meanings is required.

    When we stopped keeping oral histories the periods of time of order between unresolved chaos shortened and restored order was less sustainable.

    People here and elsewhere do not really know what oral histories fundamentally were.
     
  3. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a very old philosophical conundrum actually, Aristotle talks about it a little .

    Societal histories will always be doomed to repeat because the same factors are always there and it has nothing to do with what people do, it is the mechanism itself which fails on its own.

    For example, a car engine can run fine for a long time but it will eventually break down on its own from simple use which causes the person to replace parts. The car then runs fine again until more items break down and they need to be replaced again and the whole process continues in one circular motion.

    It is not until a new technology is created that no longer uses a car engine, but something else, that the car will never wear out its parts again. It is the same thing with societies, they all follow a linear path that reaches to the same conclusion regardless of what humans do to try and change it. You can elect new politicians, develop a new ideology, create a new political format, anything you want but you are still working with the same "car", you are just replacing its parts.

    Most philosophers who I know that have studied this problem have begun to think that the next big change (a new car engine) will not occur until we begin to colonize space. Then we may see permanent societies that no longer follow the traditional system.
     

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