How to reduce health care prices 80% in two easy steps:

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  1. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

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    You have not demonstrated there no competition and while not publishing prices is bad for competition it doesn't mean there isn't. And you have no evidence that their reasons for not publishing their prices has anything to do with government mandates or that there is anything soviet about it. If anything it is an example of the free market gone wrong and lacking enough competition. The fix is to mandate equal, simple, and explicit pricing by all healthcare entities like all other industries have.

    What you fail to understand is that a free market doesn't mean good competition it just means that the market is private but a free market can be monopolistic. Government regulations should restrain that behavior in the market.
     
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    Again, many states allow selling across state lines and there is no evidence competition has made illegal in 1946.
     
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    70% of people have private insurance and 95% of healthcare is provided privately. How on earth are you calling it "socialist?" You just blame all healthcare problems on socialism even if they are problems with private companies like lack of competition and price hiding.
     
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    That you made a blatantly false statement. There's a million things to criticize about communism, so why make it up?
     
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    Price lists will work only for elective proceedures.
     
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    Nope. And there is no evidence that any change in healthcare could possibly reduce total healthcare spending in the US by 80%.
     
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    sure there is!! We know from East/West Germany and 132 other examples how poor socialism makes people. Under Republican capitalism people can afford about 5 times more. Now do you understand?
     
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    knowing price for all procedures is very important so you can pick lowest price. Do you understand?
     
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    so then why so afraid to tell us the blatantly false statement?
     
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    socialism is when govt owns and controls industry rendering most people poor. Health care is most controlled industry by govt thus the most socialist and thus most impoverishing. Do you understand?
     
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    ?? McCarran Furguson made interstate competition illegal in health care in 1946. Why do you think toothpaste for example sells nationally but not health care?? Why do you think Republicans want inter-state competition and Democrats don't????
     
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    Yes I understand that it works for elective procedures. If you have ever been hospitalized you know that there is not going to be any chance of picking which tests or which proceedures or where they are performed.
     
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    Health care is more controlled than the defense industry?
     
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    Yes I understand you have no clue about how the healthcare system actually functions. perhaps you will be kind enough to explain how when you are lying in a hospital bed with a serious emergency you are going to get competitive bids for testing or surgery.
     
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    Because the Democrats care about having good insurance for everyone while Republicans only want good health insurance for the rich and the healthy? That was easy, next question.
     
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    if they want good tooth paste and good health care for everyone then they would want national or international competition to provide it. Do you understand that the best in the state is not as good as the best in the nation or the world?
     
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    you know that a Rolls Royce is the most expensive car long before you ever buy it. Do you understand now?
     
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    health care and defense are very much controlled by the govt so both very very inefficient. Remember East West Germany? When a govt monopoly controls rather than Republican capitalism you get tremendous inefficiency, high prices and poverty. Do you understand now?
     
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    What I understand now is you can't actually answer my question. And if you think a Rolls is the most expensive car you don't know much about the exotic car market.
     
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    as I said you know decades before you buy a Rolls Royce that the price is very high. Do you understand?
     
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    What is East West Germany?
     
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    please tell why you think I cant actually answer your question?
     
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    Germany was divided after WW2 into East and West. One was capitalist one was libcommie. Do you know which one did best and why? See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?
     
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    The best in the nation will always be the best in some state, Understand now?
     
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    no idea what you mean actually. Do you understand that national competition will produce a better product than intra state competition?? Do you understand that the best runner in a state will not be as good as the best runner in the nation?
     
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