How Tucker Carlson became one of Russia’s biggest cheerleaders

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    https://www.businessinsider.in/poli...isnt-on-russias-side/articleshow/89595755.cms

    So…why should we listen to someone like Tucker? In an earlier age anyone making this much open support of a long time anti-democratic enemy of America would be under a close watch by the CIA.

    Certainly someone with as loud a voice as Tucker has must have Putin having little mini palpitations every time he thinks of Tucker and the division he is sowing
     
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    Carlson: "Why shouldn't I root for Putin?"

    Well, as long as it hurts Biden and the Dems, Tucker will root for Putin all day long. Because this is what it is all about: Us vs. them. Us, the American RW Trumper "patriots" vs. them, the Dems who want to destroy America. If "us" means it includes a foreign dictator, only because there can be political gain made to hurt the Dems, all the better.

    And these people still claim to be pro American patriots. In reality, they would tear America down, if it only meant to own the libs.

    Disclaimer: I am not for war with Russia. I am not for accepting Ukraine into NATO. But, for different reasons than Tucker.
     
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    Tucker is an opportunist and certainly knows where bread is buttered. Vlad and The Brainy Don have hooked the world on laundering Russian mob dollars. They are a match of convenience.
     
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    He gets money agreeing with Russias talking points. It’s not more complicated than that.
     
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    We could see this coming, right? He happens to like authoritarian dictators.

    Carlson’s documentary depicts Hungary as a conservative paradise with strong pro-family policies that has vanquished illegal immigration through its border fence. And the Hungarian-born Soros — shown only in black and white — is a villain who has spent billions trying to eliminate national borders and more generally fighting an ideological war against the West.

    But if Tucker Carlson is here to inform Hungarians that George Soros is waging war against our country, he’s a bit late: We have been getting the same message from our government for years.

    As a native Hungarian and resident of Budapest, I’ve watched since 2010 as Orbán, an ally of Donald Trump and Fox News favorite, has modified election laws to favor his party, curbed freedom of the press (leading me to lose my job more than once), cozied up to Russia and China, passed anti-LGBTQ laws and waged a war against migration. All the while, George Soros has been a convenient bogeyman.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/01/tucker-carlson-hungary-orban-00004149

    His affection for authoritarian governance, anti-immigrant nationalism, using propaganda to establish a perceived enemy of the people.....while Orban has modified election laws to favor his party, curbed freedom of the press (Trump wanted to), cozied up to Russia and China, passed anti-LGBTQ laws and waged a war against migration.......it all has a somewhat familiar ring to it.

    What's more dangerous? That Faux provides Tucker a platform to promote an essentially anti-democratic message using disinformation and overt propaganda? Of that he has the #1 show there that appeals to today's American conservatives?
     
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    How is he a cheer leader of Russia? Oh the bimbo on MSNBC said so!

    Seriously how?

    Constantly calling anybody you disagree with a Russian ally is infantile. That's the best you can do? But it is worse than that you want to shut down political speech you do not like by instantly calling somebody a Russian asset.
     
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    It is Biden that got money from Russia. A $3.5M wire from Elena Baturina to Hunter Biden in 2014 just before Putin started intervening in Ukraine. They took over Crimea with your heroes Obama and Biden in charge. But Biden is not pro Putin?

    Tucker makes $6M a year from his show on Foxnews. If people do not want to watch he does not make that money. How does he get money from Russia? That is ignorant!
     
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    Show the video clip where Tucker said that. None of you libos ever use links or video clips. Where is yours.

    In the meantime China gets off scot free after unleashing a bioengineered weapon on the world. They even get to host the olympics.
     
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    Yeah this is it. This is exactly why Carlson supports Russia. I don’t think it’s money, it’s a chance to own the Dems. It’s as Quantum Nerd said. It’s a chance to own the Dems and exonerate Trumps attempt to influence the domestic election. Which we know has been Carlsons MO. Defending Trump means siding with Russia.
     
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    How does Tucker support Russia? None of you have even come close to making that case. Stop saying these infantile things like they are true. Make a case or admit you are lying.
     
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    Your post about how evil Hunter Biden is? That’s my proof.
     
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    I'm not going to tolerate ignorant infantile nonsense.

    Trump implored NATO countries to spend more on national defense. He sent lethal military aid to Ukraine. Biden got a $3.5M bribe from the richest woman in Russia!!!

    Is this a joke? You still clinging to this crap?

    Tucker is pro Russia according to who? The media outlets that have to compete with him for viewers. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
     
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    Dude you’re replying to no one but you are saying “you”. Who are you talking to?
     
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    When I read about what Carlson's doing and saying it feels like a parody. Like it's a screenplay about a TV personality who discovered he could achieve long sought after popularity by utilizing unhinged bombast...........but has gone too far.
     
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    Biden took a $3.5M bribe from this woman through his crackhead son Hunter. That money was wired while Biden was VP. 2014.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yelena_Baturina

    It's not opinion! Her husband was the mayor of Moscow for 18 years!

    Why are Russian elites sending Hunter Biden millions just before Putin took over Crimea?
    https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/hunter-biden-received-3-5m-from-russian-billionaire-report/
     
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    Still waiting for the proof Tucker supports Russia. Like something he really said or did? That might be a start.
     
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    Yeah that’s basically what I read him as too. Someone realized long ago outrage sells. It’s not Carlson that’s the problem. It’s the fact they keep making Carlson’s that’s the problem.

    Yeah, getting conspiracy theories from rag publishers. That’s exactly my point.
     
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    One of the largest and oldest newspapers in the country is a rag?

    It is a wire transfer. It is documented by the senate committee on Homeland security.

    Putin annexed Crimea when who was president and VP?
     
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    Still waiting for that proof. What did Tucker say or do that proves he is pro Russia?
     
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    Which if it was substantiated would be bigger news and more serious than what some random poster is saying. So yes you have a conspiracy theory just by looking at it. It fails the first test for figuring if a news source is lying or not. Once we double check we can confirm it’s misinformation.

    “The claim has been denied by Biden's lawyer, who says his client was not a co-founder of the entity purportedly receiving the money. The source, from a Republican majority's Senate committee report, is linked to a confidential document without elaboration. Without knowing what that document contains, the allegation is unproven, therefore we rate it as MISSING CONTEXT“
    https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3586861001

    Now my guess is you’re going to double down because that’s how misinformation spreads. You keep assuming it’s true regardless of the facts presented. You have no proof. In other words you’re doing exactly what Carlson does. Spreading misinformation because it will work.
     
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    Not to go off topic, but speaking of how misinformation spreads look at the "Hillary was spying" story that was spun out of Durham's filing about 10 days ago. It's a great example of how right wing media told what are demonstrably false, bald faced lies about what it said.......which were immediately accepted as fact by an audience eager to accept anything that feeds their hatred for Hillary.....their bogeyman.
     
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    Of course. The right is incapable of holding themselves accountable. It sells and it justifies their own actions. I miss the days when McCain would stand up against a woman for calling Obama a Muslim and defending him. Times are changing.
     
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    Carlson at his crazed best.

    Right-wing media’s January 6 propaganda campaign now claims the FBI planted pipe bombs at the DNC and RNC

    Fox News prime-time host Tucker Carlson and top right-wing media allies in his propaganda campaign claiming the January 6 insurrection was a false flag operation are now pushing a new set of conspiracy theories focused on the pipe bombs discovered that day outside both the Republican and Democratic national committee offices — which they want you to believe may have been planted by the FBI.

    CNN and Politico reported this past January that Vice President Kamala Harris, then the vice president-elect, had to be evacuated from the DNC headquarters when a pipe bomb was discovered outside. CNN later added more to the story, revealing that Harris had been within yards of the bomb when she initially arrived at the building.

    About a month after this news broke, Carlson and his compatriots in the January 6 Truth movement began to push back with unfounded conspiracies. Carlson insinuated the reports about the pipe bombs were false on the February 9 edition of his Fox show: “Now, everyone has assumed those bombs were planted by a Trump supporter.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/januar...opaganda-campaign-now-claims-fbi-planted-pipe
     
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    I can guarantee that despite the "Hillary spied" narrative being completely debunked we will be seeing references to it in the future as if it were true. Once planted in the right wing lexicon these lies take on a life of their own such that they can not be extracted.
     
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    That’s why I don’t think it actually matters if Clinton spied or not. It doesn’t mean Clinton spied anymore. It means something else like “the government is spying on us”.
     

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