How we should treat China

No, Samsung has high profit margins too I worked on Samsung analysis for my PhD

However, it does change every few years between Apple and Samsung...

 

not sure where you get the idea samsung is leaving china. Samsung benefit greatly due to Huawie-US situation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/huawei-ban-us-could-benefit-samsung-smartphones-2019-5

 

Samsung gave me the idea when they said they removed all smartphone manufacturing and are looking at other areas to expand and improve market share of semiconductors. Yes, they are still in China for now, but they are making changes.

 

Huawei is a complex issue, far beyond Samsung VS. Apple, or US.

 

here is list of foundry worldwide. as US-China tech war warm up, SK/Japan, and EU will be the biggest beneficiary. Huawei is a big customer to many company, i wont be surprise if samsung or other SK semiconductor try to grab that business from TSMC and other US companies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants

oh before Huawei use 30% US components in its phone, from qualcomm to micron, now they switch to domestic or SK/Japan components. of course other company outside of US see this as opportunities for them to expand

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ntry-for-chip-factory-expansion-idUSKCN22418I

 

Tariffs work in that it applies incentive not to buy from China.

 

then china can also put tariff on US goods it goes both ways. also certain manufacture gonna stay in china either way due to its supply chain structure. there is also products route via mexico/vietnam from china, but it list as made in mexico, this happen in 2009 tire tariff.

 

I don't want to do business with China....who cares?

 

you dont but many company want to. so its not up to you.

 

Often, history takes quite awhile to render a verdict.

But I doubt that it will require quite so long this time.

 

I really thought the entire purpose of a political forum was to engender rational discussion--not to "call out" others...

 

Did you now..?

 

Hmmmm....

 

Like so many others, you seem to be under the impression that our national policies should be amoral--predicated entirely upon some calculation of the pluses and the minuses of a certain course of action.

Thankfully, that is not how I see things.

Even just a little.

 

Well, I have tried every way I know to speak in a rational manner with you. (And for a long time, I tried to do so also in a civil manner.)

But you appear to want none of it.

I am not sure just why you seem to detest me; but it really does not matter.

So I decline to interact any longer with you.

(You may trumpet this as a big win for yourself, if you wish. But believe me, it is not the force of your arguments that has driven me off; rather, it is the hatefulness of your personality.)

I do hope that in the future, you will learn to act in a less rancid manner, when you interact with others...

 

like everything there is always pro and cons. trump only way to solve issue is using a hammer for everything. eg. look how he handle the current protest.

 

Manufacturing of pharamceuticals is not difficult, patent monopolies have made them artifically expensive, and difficult to produce legally.

Opppsition to IP is such an interesting issue because segments of the left and right agree.

 

How we should treat China

Badly.

 

I should note that post #115 was directed toward Jacob E Mack (who is now on my "Ignore" list).

I just would not want another member thinking that I had directed it toward him (or her).

I do apologize for not having specified, previously.

 

And just what makes you think that the US would allow this?

Or that it even should allow this (regardless of the alternative)?

 

How would you stop them?

 

Ignore them as much as possible while quietly moving to a more diverse line of supply.

 

Instead of the heavy handed approach of big government coming out and majorly distrupting the economy with new laws and regulations. Why can't something be done at a consumer level. If there is enough outrage against China, people should change their shopping habits. Stop buying goods from China. Demand suppliers sell products manufactured in the US. Start a movement and get people to change their consumer behavior. That is free market principle. You are asking for big government intervention that can easily be wiped out with an election. A change to consumer behavior is immune to political change.

 

As a free nation it is contradictory and incompatible for us to do business with China at all. I’m sure communist leaning liberals (another contradiction) would disagree. Although I’m sure fear and cowardice in the face of China is nothing new to the left. Capitulation to Chinese economic aggression is how these folks make their billions. Career asshat politicians like Biden stood by while the Chinese steal American intellectual property while he makes millions. Him and his idiot son.
Isn’t it funny how the left says they want equality for all Americans while simultaneously supporting globalist economics that ruin our industry thus killing any chance for American minorities achieve said equality?

 

I would un-nationalize them.

Immediately.

And I would ask our companies to leave China.

Again, immediately.

(If China tried to stop this, I would let its leaders know--through diplomatic channels, presumably--that it really did not want to do this.)

And I would mean it.