How would you react if your neighbors fired 45 missiles at your house? Palestinians fire at Israel

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He claims to be an American Christian Zionist. That being said I have wondered once or twice if he is an extremist Israeli. I remember some time ago a poster pointing out that people from the ME tend to leave a space before putting in an exclamation mark or question mark. Looking at his posts he conforms to this.
     
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  2. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    I am from Belguim.
    Are you American ?
     
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    Shouldn't you know how to spell the name of the country you're supposedly from?? Good grief dude...It's BELGIUM
     
  4. DavidMK

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    If a small typo is the best you've got, you already lost the argument.
     
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    I've got a lot more. Try perusing some of my many postings and threads, you will learn what a leech Israel is. You will also read the many reasons we should cut the parasite State of Israel off at the knees. You will read the many logical reasons given as to why Israel is a parasite warmongering State that thieves it's neighbors land and cries wolf when they resist the thieving. Did you have any more questions?
     
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    lol You think I'm pro-Isreal becuase I called out your horrible debating skills?
     
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    Why not refute what I said then?
     
  8. DavidMK

    DavidMK Well-Known Member

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    Because you lost the argument as soon as you pounced on an obvious typo rather than making a valid point. Besides, I'm opposed to Isreal (or rather, Zionism) as are you so what's there for me to refute?
     
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    You don't say? Pointing out the Spelling error made by said poster who claims to be from Belgium, but cannot even properly spell the name of the Country this person states they are from makes a very big point. A point that I constantly refer to on this site, that the majority of the Pro-Israel posters that constantly post Pro-Israel propaganda are actually paid by the Israeli government. Here, try and learn something....

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...hey-tweet-pro-israeli-propaganda-8760142.html

    So you see, these guys posting all of this Pro-Israel propaganda, or hasbara, are actually posting from Israel and are being paid to do so. Now, did you learn anything this evening grasshopper?
     
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    Excellent question. Now all you have to do is prove that the neighbors we're talking about lived on said land for centuries.

    I'd also like to understand why is Gaza pure Arab land despite more than two millennia of uninterrupted Jewish presence there (until kicked out by the British during the 1929 massacres).

    Re "shitty piece of wasteland": Jews lived and thrived in Gaza for the most part of more than two millennia. Either that land is neither shitty nor waste, or the present inhabitants are not quite interested in developing the area.

    I'd say it's about time Jews organize a march of return to Gaza.

    Well?
     
  11. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    My french and Arabic are better.
    Instead of correcting my English .. answer the question
     
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    Yes it is correct!

    No one (except idiots) denies that Israel, as a state, has the same rights but also the same duties as any other state on this planet. Because of the 6 million murdered Jews by the Nazis, they may also have a legitimate special status ... and special status in relation to their neighbors (For example, in soccer, Israel is considered part of Europe in terms of Champions League and qualifications, etc.) ... but Israel does not have any special rights that others do not have and no special rights not to adhere to clearly defined international law, which is also recognized by the USA and demanded by the USA!

    The West Bank was conquered by Israel during the 6-day war and has since been occupied by Israel. Previously, it belonged to Jordan and Jordan has submitted its claims to the free will on the premise that it should create its own Palestinian state. Only what is Israel doing?

    Unfortunately, the West Bank was not deserted when it was conquered, but it ignores the population that lived there and still lives on all sites regarding rights and equal treatment. more than that, people are denied rights, expropriated Palestinians and allowed to settle illegally. And if then these settlers terrorists ... yes they are terrorists !!! ... make attacks on the Palestinians and then protect them as well as protect their settlements.
     
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    As thoughtful as your post is, there are any number of inconsistencies and mistakes, starting with (from wiki)

    "The Jordanian annexation of the West Bank was the occupation and consequent annexation of the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) by Jordan (formerly Transjordan) in the aftermath of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War.[1][2] During the war, Jordan's Arab Legion conquered the Old City of Jerusalem and took control of territory on the western side of the Jordan River, including the cities of Jericho, Bethlehem, Hebron and Nablus.[3] At the end of hostilities, Jordan was in complete control of the West Bank"

    So, Jordan itself won the west bank territories during the war. And then, out of shear goodness of their hearts, unilaterally decided to give Judea and Samaria to Palestinians? How generous of them!

    And while Israel does indeed occupy Judea and Samaria, they do it out of necessity - when Jordan withdrew, Israel inherited administration and to this day, administer Judea and Samaria pending final negotiation and disposition of land in these territories. Did I mention, Israel considers Judea and Samaria disputed territories?
     
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    according to International Law, the West Bank aka Western Jordan is OCCUPIED TERRITORY and under the authority of the 4th Geneva Conventions and the 1907 Hague Regulations. And the Israeli Supreme Court agrees.
     
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    There was only one post about improving the lives of the Palestinian people and it wasn't from you. Almost no one cares about them.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An excellent point. No Palestinian defender cares about Palestinians; all they care about is giving it to Israel.
     
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    Is there anybody (with vested interest in matter) wishing to negotiate with Israel for the disposition of the territories in dispute? :confusion:
     
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    If you justify firing rockets from areas surrounded by women and children, you obviously don't have a problem when they become collateral casualties. No one is going to sit back and let the rockets keep coming. The main source of their oppression is their own leadership.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BINGO!
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    “Israel today concentrates the genius of the Jews. Obscured by the prevalent media narrative of the “war-torn” Middle East, Israel’s rarely-celebrated feats of commercial, scientific, and technological creativity climax the Jews’ twentieth-century saga of triumph over tragedy. Today tiny Israel, with its population of 7.23 million, five and one-half million Jewish, is second only the United States in technological contributions. In per capita innovation, Israel dwarfs all nations. The forces of civilization in the world continue to feed upon the intellectual wealth epitomized by Israel.

    Today in the Middle East, Israeli wealth looms palpably and portentously over the middens of Arab poverty. But dwarfing Israel’s own wealth is Israel’s contribution to the world economy, stemming from Israeli creativity and entrepreneurial innovation. Israel’s technical and scientific gifts to global progress loom with similar majesty over all others’ contributions with the sole exception of the United States.”

    Excerpt From “The Israel Test”

    “Israel is a parasite State”! He’s saying... you’re killing me”!!!
     
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    Yes a parasite state that leeches off of the American taxpayer to the tune of nearly 10 billion dollars a year with loan guarantees that are never paid back.
     
  22. DavidMK

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    You ****ing responded to this post.

    "Besides, I'm opposed to Isreal (or rather, Zionism) as are you so what's there for me to refute?"

    Maybe read the thread you're posting in instead of just rambling aimlessly? <Rule 2>
     
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    Did I steal my neighbors' home before they decided to do that?
     
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    Perhaps Hamas is not as ideologically solid as you claim "world wide caliphate and so on". Seems like supporting the Assad regime would counter this claim.

    That said - I completely agree that the way to attack the Islamist's is to attack the ideology - a form of termination. Unfortunately we are not doing this. The MSM refuses to distinguish the difference between an Islamist and a Muslim. They refuse to define what an Islamist is and explain that the problem with an Islamist is that they hate individual liberty - and the idea that individual liberty is above the legitimate authority of Gov't - the ideal on which this nation was founded - the ideal we no longer follow.
     
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    Addressing your last sentence first...

    "Well, there were no settlements when Arabs made wars on Israel. Right?"

    True, but the reason why the Arab armies could even make war on Israel (from 1947 on) is because the UNSC was unable to maintain the peace, while implementing the UN's GA resolution to partition British mandate Palestine. (UN resolution #181).

    So to your point about International Law: In 1946, with much of the world laying in ruins, and 40 million dead (mostly civilians), there was some idealism amongst the delegates present at the creation of the UN Charter, many of whom resisted adoption of the veto power by the permanent members of the proposed Security Council.

    But with the world at that time divided into two opposing economic systems (represented by the USSR and the West), "great power" politics forced the adoption of the veto in the SC (inter alia, the USSR wanted more than one vote, since it consisted of many countries), thereby destroying the hopes of many for a new world order free from the scourge of war. (The five permanent SC members possess 99% of the world's military force, and would be capable of defending all agreed international law).

    Fast forward to the present: Muslims and Christians make up over half the world's population: implementation of the status of Jerusalem as described in UN res #181 ( ie, as a world city open to people of all faiths, in the context of a two-state solution, administered by a special UN authority) would represent a powerful symbol of the unity of the world's faiths before God.

    Amazing...…

    Now, the two state solution died some time ago, and those illegal settlements aren't going anywhere; but nevertheless the possibility of Jerusalem emerging as a symbolic City of Peace as envisioned by all "Peoples of the Book" is still alive.

    [Will you 'lift a little finger' to help get rid of the veto?...……]
     
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