How would you reform America's gun laws?

I think everyone agrees they need some reform, how exactly would you go about it? I do understand that different states have different laws.

1. Everyone must have a licence and must undergo ATF background checks and psychiatric evaluation with a renewal every year. Licence to be carried whenever using weapons.

2. Ban military style weapons such as assault rifles and high capacity pistols.

3. Waiting period for all weapons

4. Have all weapons electronically tagged so they can be traced and forensically tested so they are identifiable.

5. All guns to be kept in mandatory gun safes.

6. Compulsory gun safety classes before purchase.

7. Limit ownership to a certain number to avoid straw purchases, ensure you can only buy guns in your home state.

8. Other?

 

-Offer firearm safety class in public schools
-Make attempts to purchase a firearm a fineable offense for prohibited persons (to encentivize LE to actually investigate them).

That is all.

 

8. other
1-7 are ALL infringments on our 2nd. Enforce existing laws, we already have many concerning homicide. Until we enforce existing laws, adding new infringments will only harass law abiding gun owners. Not a fan of incremental erosion of our rights. Our rights do not come from government, but are limitations placed ON our government.

 

Lets start with states having unencumbered rights to do all of the above. I would vote to pass them all by initiative petition here in Oregon.

 

Would you support a region of your state seperating from your state by initiative petition? Cuz thats what'll happen if you pass many of the above stated laws. Same in my state of WA. We both have starkly divided states, culturally speaking, from the coastal portion to the inland portion.

 

Bullshit. A lot of blather and melodrama induced by outraged people. They will protest. they will file recall petitions, they will just defy the laws in larger numbers in those regions , and we will be playing Wack-a-mole with enforcement in those counties. Whatever efforts these conservative counties make towards separation will fizzle very quickly.

 

Would you say initiative petitions are only valid within the confines of the constitution, then?

 

Bye an large yes. There is no direct federal constitutional role for initiative petititions. Direct democracy in no form, was contemplated at all as a check on Congressional power, Presidential power or the federal appellate court system.

There could be an interesting but technical question with respect to efforts to amend the US Constitution via Constitutional Convention in states that have adopted an initiative, referral and referendum process within their own state constitutions, as a check on state legislative power if in fact the state legislative request to hold a constitutional convention takes its form as a legislative bill, just like any other bill it passes. otherwise initiative, referendum and recall systems must work within the framework of US constitution, just like each state legislative effort must.

 

Insure Guns like cars.

 

TAX NON GUN OWNERS
because they do not contribute to the public safety.

Encourage carrying.
Open of concealed.
No license.
No registration.
No permit.
Jail Time for unlawful discharge, no excuses.

Moi


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My #8. Compulsory liability insurance for all gun owners

 

And insurance...in tiers. handgun less expensive than a long gun. If you want to play soldier then its gets brutal and liability kicks in.

 

1-7 are no infringement of the 2dA.

No law can be posted to show that is so.

 

They would be unable to buy the Gun unless rich and would be forced to provide proof of insurance beforehand.

 

I disagree with every single one of the above.

1. The Orlando Nightclub shooter did all of these--did not do a thing to stop his crime.
2. The majority of weapons on the market are derivatives of military style weapons. This is just foolish.
3. Won't do a thing but inconvenience the law-abiding. Mass shooters pretty much plan their crimes for weeks if not months or years. A waiting period won't stop them. A waiting period does stop a woman who's belligerent ex-boyfriend threatens her from buying a gun in a timely manner.
4. Technically impossible at this time.
5. Already ruled by the SCOTUS to be unconstitutional in Heller vs. DC.
6. Just another way to harass the law-abiding. It's a good idea as a voluntary thing, but compulsory makes it a way to harass the law-abiding, and not stop criminals a bit.
7. Again, just harass the law-abiding.

The only gun law I think needs to be made is that CCW permit reciprocity should apply to all states that allow concealed weapons permits. I also think we should start investigating every person that fails a NICS check.

Interesting to me that "Reasonablerob" put out one of the most unreasonable lists of gun laws I've read in a couple of days.

 

Do you also want your state to be able to ban freedom of the press, and the jury trial?

 

So you don't want poor people armed.......

 

Liability insurance need not be extreme.

 

Most of the gun laws in the OP are no more constitutional than secession would be...

 

Yes, the proposed laws are constitution and will easily upheld by SCOTUS.

 

Why would insurance cost more for the thing that causes far less damages?

 

Insurance on all guns will even out the price.

 

Just reread the OP that I was responding to. It did not ask me whether the reforms required constitutional amendment subsequent to a legal challenge or whether they only required a statute. . It asked me what I wanted to do. I wanted states to decide, and I wanted my state to decide by passing them all. For the purposes of my reply, I presuppose, that all are made, one way or another, constitutional.

How is a whole different discussion