How would YOU stop school shootings?

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  1. Turtledude

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    You ignore the constitution and the fact there are 400 million firearms in the USA. so the nanny state nonsense of countries such as Australia won't work here
     
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    depends on how humiliating their death would be
     
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    Does not negate the fact that only America and countries with minimal legislation and or oversight relating guns have this problem
     
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    es not seem to come into it at all - unless you are going to put them in the stocks or shoot them in the arse
     
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    That's not really true at all, Bowerbird. How ignorant you are about the rest of the world.

    Maybe America is just the only country you are aware of that has this problem because you are only aware of First World countries... (You know, especially those English-speaking White or Western European countries that weren't behind the Iron Curtain during Communism)

    Shall we take a look at Mexico, Brazil, South Africa, or dare I even bring it up, Nigeria?
     
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    And what is the the legislation and enforcement in those countries?

    See I have read the research
    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/

    https://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11120184/2016-gun-control-study-epidemiologic-reviews-deaths

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-is-clear-gun-control-saves-lives/

    There is more
     
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    @Chrizton 's post, saying that the only way to eliminate school shootings, is to eliminate schools, was meant sarcastically. How can I be sure? Because I came to your thread with the intention of posting the same answer.
     
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    Then how come so many of them are "groomers?"
     
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    Did any of those countries involve non-White countries, and countries that were not East Asian (Japanese, Korean, Chinese ethnicity) either?

    That's the first immediate question we should have.

    According to the article you linked to, most of the studies looked at law changes in the developed world. Only a small number of the studies came from Brazil and South Africa.

    Sounds like there is some inherent selection bias here.

    I'm actually willing to believe that gun control policies reduced death in South Africa.

    But there are a lot of stupid people in that country.

    I've pointed this out before.
    When IQ levels dramatically fall in your country, then a need for gun control is created. Yet people seem to ignore this as a matter of immigration policy.

    Rights are going to be erroded in a country when the IQ levels go down.

    I think there was even someone in this forum, can't find it now, who posted a thread postulating that gun rights wouldn't be able to stand up in America the face of continued and uncontrolled mass immigration.

    Now, let's look at the reality. Statistically, the vast majority of the gun murders that happen in schools do not fall under the category of "mass shootings". And probably in more than half these cases, that specific school already knew there were security concerns with the character of their student population and the surrounding neighborhood.

    You live in Australia so you probably do not know how the U.S. works. There are schools in "bad areas", where there are students up to no good bringing weapons into the school every week. These may often be neighborhoods where illegal drug selling is rampant, and so too the unlawful sales of guns that come along with that illegal drug trade.
     
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    more whining about our rights. dismissed. Nothing you can suggest has any intention of solving the problems you pretend to care about-your goals obviously are to harass American gun owners
     
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