How's the U.S. actually fairing?

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  1. ModCon

    ModCon Well-Known Member

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    I've noticed a lot of talk about the severity of COVID in America across the internet, some of which seems borderline... gleeful.

    How bad are we actually doing though? Granted we haven't peeked yet, but if you consider our confirmed case to fatality rate in comparison to just three smaller E.U. nations trailing behind us, or further if you view the E.U. as a nation of states, we're not doing that bad.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    BTW, I think the Chinese numbers are complete bull ****.
     
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    Actually, pretty damn good.

    We've met the original goal. If we remember:

    The whole point of shutting down was not to prevent all infections but to flatten the curve to allow medical resources to be put in place to accommodate the influx of severe cases.

    Cheers
     
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    And the Chinese people know that they're complete b.s.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think we were truly blessed that our economy was roaring when this "pandemic" began. It will sustain us and return once we find the "truth" in what is really going on. Sad predicament if you are a Socialist Democrat.
     
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    In ratio of population number to numbers of infected we are near the bottom. Italy, France, Spain, and England, Germany other European nations are near the top, since they have high infection rates in comparison to their population numbers . . . but one would never know that if one listened to leftist allied ABC, CBS, NBC/MSNBC, CNN, The NYT or The Washington Post.
     
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    We were facing up to 2.2 million dead and may limit that to less than 100K. I'd say saving 2.1 million lives and avoiding a total collapse of the health care system is a reason to be a little gleeful.
     
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    You misinterpret nearly every one of my posts that you quote.
     
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    I guess you need to work on your communication skills.

    And i was just making an observation so perhaps you are just confused.
     
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    Enjoy iggy island.
     
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    Very likely the Chinese numbers are crap. But as far as how we are doing, we should have been doing better than we are. We had ample time to prepare and react to the pandemic in a way that would have saved many lives. The President* knew of the dangers very early. We had the advantage of being able to observe nations that had early infections and late reactions like China, Italy, Germany, ...

    So "it could have been worse" is not the parameter that should ever guide a country like ours. "It could have been better" has always been our parameter. And only this administration has lowered the bar this low.

    And we could have done so much better, if we had had real leadership.
     
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    We lead the world in confirmed cases.

    However the only two nations with more population are India who has done something like 90% less tests and China who is almost certainly hiding their numbers. So that stat doesn't mean much beyond a useful propaganda tool at this point.
     
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    I'm not buying it at all. With their population density, the way they mingle in close proximity, and the fact that they we're at least two months ahead, just not buying it.
     
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    And deaths!
    COVIDIOT Tramp body count now 20,460
     
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    You mean like when he warned about it during his SOTU address; you know, the one that Nancy Pelosi tore up while leftists cheered? Trump has done an adequate job considering that the Left's leadership could not drop politics during this crisis and tried to ram through pork-stuffed bills and did their very best to keep the nation panicked.
     
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    In retrospect, I do wish we would've acted sooner and more aggressively. I myself was dismissive early on, and it wasn't until I understood what was about to happen to the medical infrastructure that I changed course.
     
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    Adequate? He has made the USA number 1 in the world for Trump-45 virus deaths with 20,555.
    GREAT job Brownie!
     
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    Gasp! Trump did that? Stop the presses! Trump personally went out and gave people the CoronaVirus and then killed some of them with his bare hands. Hmmmmmmm . . . sounds like MSNBC, eh?
     
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    Typical Straw Man.
    Thank you!
     
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    No! Way before that. He knew about it in early January. And minimized the danger until he had no option but to declare a national emergency on March 13.
     
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    Most people were dismissive. Because the President* was dismissive. Thousands of lives could have been saved... We just happened to have the wrong President* at the wrong time.

    Hope we all learn a lesson from this....
     
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    As @Steve N stated:
    "Slow to act? As of late January the World Health Org said the virus wasn't transmitted human to human, said the china virus in Wuhan was fully contained, and it was safe to travel. When Trump put together his task force, the left was calling it racist and handing out impeachment pens.
    AOC said it was racist not to eat at chinese restaurants, and Pelosi and de Blasio encouraged people to go into crowded public places. But let's not get the facts in the way of the left's complete and total TDS."
     
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    Trump had nothing to do with my view of the situation. I wasn't relying on any particular source of information as things were unfolding. My error though, was focusing too much on what demographics were most affected, while not fully considering the rate at which it spreads.
     
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    Nothing the Right ever says is true!
    Tramp started his task farce on Feb 26 2020, the impeachment signing was more than a month earlier, Jan 16, 2020!!!
     
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    From Wikipedia: The White House Coronavirus Task Force was established on January 29. On January 31, the Trump administration declared a public health emergency, and ...
     
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    As soon as Trump closed down travel to/from China, Joe Biden accused him "hysterical xenophobia". You mean that kind of leadership?

    @Gatewood
     
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