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  1. bringiton

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    Obviously CO2 and temperature are correlated because before people started adding CO2 to the atmosphere, temperature led and controlled CO2 via the mechanism of sea water solubility. But there is no evidence that CO2 sensitivity exceeds the ~1C predicted by the known physics of radiative heat transfer.
     
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    After half a doubling of CO2, temperature has increased about 1.0C.

    That points to a TCS (transient climate sensitivity) of around 2.0C.

    As ECS (equilibrium climate sensitivity) is bigger than TCS, we know ECS is more than 2.0C.

    So, the real world has debunked your claims about low climate sensitivity.
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just as flat-earthers think the round-earth theory is hilarious. Cult leaders train their followers to ridicule reality. They have to, because if the cultists start honestly looking at reality, they'll end up leaving the cult.
     
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    Just quoting what you stated. If it weren’t for AGW the earth would be cooling.
     
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    By what data set did you pull that from ???

    The real world of urban heat islands, land-use effects, and sea surface temperature which has nothing to do with the radiative effects of the atmosphere has corrupted your claim.
     
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    All of the temperature data sets have about 1.0C of warming. Pick one.

    Corrected for.

    Total albedo change from land use changes has a slight cooling effect. Aerosol effects are negative. Cloud effects are negative. Without the effects of new greenhouse gases, Earth would be cooling slightly.

    Where did you get the idea that sea surface temp is not affected by increased CO2? Because it obviously is. When there's more wattage coming down from the sky, the sea surface absorbs it and warms.
     
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    The US data shows ~ 0.5 deg C from 1880 to 2000.

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    Corrected for ?? How ?? What was the magnitude of error ?? Why were the stations not moved ??


    Read all about the details here:

    https://www.academia.edu/35571845/D...h_the_most_extensive_peer_reviewed_references
     
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