HUD moves to cancel illegal immigrants' public housing access

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  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You would be shocked to see where we put up the refugee's we bring in.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Statute please.
     
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    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm aware of some of it. The world is inside out in the areas the left is allowed to operate.
     
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    The story is a little more complicated:

    "Further complicating matters, Clinton-era rules specifically allowed “mixed” immigration status families to gain housing benefits. As long as one person in the home is an eligible U.S. resident, a family can qualify. The eligible person doesn’t need to be the head of the household, and could even be a minor child."
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/new...EftKQDgsMUxw8mwljrEKmn5UruVjugvUD7ryMCLQzwSrE

    Which is what I suspected. So you have a family that has some illegal immigrants and some legal immigrants (I would guess illegal parents and legal children) applying for HUD and, for the past 20 years or so, HUD has let them apply. I can see the argument for not letting them apply, but let's not pretend there's no argument for letting them apply for benefits.

    Personally, I would grant the application. I have a soft spot for poor kids. I know, I know. Jesus would not approve.
     
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    Connect it for me.
     
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    Our federal Constitution. I am a federalist. I know and understand our federal doctrine.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realize that the only reason you have a federation is because of my states don't you?
     
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    I understand the federal doctrine. Do you have more than gossip? Even the right wing, can do that.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is there something you would like to debate because I will be here all day.

    Or are you afraid of taking on a 23 yr. old girl?
     
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    i am feeling fat and can use some, "endurance and stamina" practice.

    Our Constitution is express not implied. There is no express immigration clause in our federal Constitution. There is no reason to lose money on border policy with an express naturalization clause, a commerce clause, and a welfare clause General. There is no common defense issue on our southern border, it is a refugee issue.

    Upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure means relieving that pressure on our southern border in a market friendly and market beneficial manner. All foreign nationals in the US should have a federal identification for civil purposes in our Republic. We should be removing any black market incentive to "provide that sovereign government" power from the private sector.

    All Persons need do is "show up" on Ellis Island and ask for a federal id. to participate in our markets in our Republic. A market friendly fee can generate revenue to help cover costs. Trying to convince the right wing to resort to our express commerce clause is difficult Because, the right wing usually has nothing but;

    Capitalism; What is That, Sayeth the Right Wing.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually the Supreme Court has found that there are both express and implied powers in the US Constitution.
     
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    Express powers are supreme to any implied right wing fantasy powers.

    where are the nice girls who love to be our kumquats for fun and practice; and help us increase our metabolism?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you assume implied powers are part of the right wing?

    It has actually benefitted the left more.

    And no, I will no be your cum dumpster.
     
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    only the right wing appeals to ignorance.

    and,

    endurance and stamina practice, is what we can call it; and, i really am feeling fat.

    There is nothing that can be implied that is more supreme than Any power Expressed.
     
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    Explain:

    There are poor kids all over the world. Why are the lives of these poor kids more valuable than others? In fact, those living south of our border are better off than much of the world.
     
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    I'm not saying they're more valuable (although they are, we always react more negatively to deaths of children vs deaths of old people), but they're U.S. RESIDENTS.
     
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    Excellent news. It's a disgrace these illegals get housing, medical, and education while our veterans go wanting. My son has a solid VA disability case that has gone on for years.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are feeling fat then change it.

    You are an intelligent man so you know what you have to do.

    I would be happy to encourage you though if you need it.
     
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    Illegal US residents.
     
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    the disgrace is we have a Commerce Clause and are losing money on border policy. we could be upgrading infrastructure and building new housing.
     
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    sure; happen to have any girl friends who may like to role-play being a "gunny" and "bring me up to speed" not Only for practice but just for fun? High numbers and plenty of Practice is "what any gunny" may say. And, not Only that, but also that it is for his own Good. Nobody trusts a guy with low numbers and little practice. They could be a "danger to themselves and others".
     
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    Not according to the link in the OP.
     
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    Children are much worse off in other parts of the world. For those who have a soft spot for children, these resources can do a lot more good elsewhere. Children living in Congo would trade places with those living south of our border.
     
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    What are you talking about? We're talking about children HERE (U.S. residents).
     
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    You brought the discussion to having a soft spot for children. These kids were forced on US tax payers and are absorbing resources that can do more good elsewhere. Why are their lives more valuable simply because an ocean didn't prevent their parents from bringing them into the US?

    The best way to keep them out is to remove incentives. I support this move.
     
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