Hundreds of US troops heading to the border to deal with migrant caravan, official says

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it's anything like it is here (Europe) with our immigration problem, the trick is knowing where to deport them to? (excuse clumsy grammar), because most of them have no form of ID.
     
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    And the most bizarre thing of all is that Donald is pissed off because this caravan is denying him some light in the Sun for the mid-terms. Or maybe that was the pipe bombs his own loyal trooper sent to Trump detractors, and Donald has the hide to pretend he said nothing, did nothing to incite it. If I were Donald, I'd be bleeding this caravan for all the political mileage it offers. Here Donald, an Aussie came up with this: We will decide who comes to Australia and the circumstances in which they may come. Send all royalty cheques to John Howard, an ********.
     
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    Ok, so why all the angst?
     
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    Those that cross from Mexico should be returned to Mexico, and left to the Mexican immigration to deal with as they should have done to begin with if they entered Mexico illegally. It is my understanding that those who possess a valid U.S. visa are allowed to travel through Mexico legally to enter the U.S. All others are either legally allowed to enter Mexico without any form of visa, depending on the agreement with their country of origin, but not allowed entry to the U.S. from Mexico without a valid U.S. visa OR they have entered Mexico illegally and should therefore not be allowed entry to the U.S., period. All we can do is return them to their point of entry outside the U.S. where they can be prosecuted and/or deported in accordance with the laws of that country. If the coyotes are charging in the thousands of dollars to bring them into the U.S. the Mexican government could fine them a sizeable equivalent amount and profit from helping the U.S. reduce illegal immigration. A win win for both Mexico and the U.S. Crime should not pay.
     
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    If humanitarian morality, international and US law prevails, unlike the ship of Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany who were turned away en masse, many thereby consigned to death, each will apply for amnesty for herself and her children, and the validity of her fears assessed.
     
  6. glitch

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    You're probably looking at stats on legal immigrants as they are often sponsored to ensure they are not a burden on our society and they avoid crime as it will greatly trouble their immigration status. The illegals bring their poverty and disease, fill our prisons with violent crimes and when one of them drops a baby on our soil their family immediate starts receiving welfare. They obviously aren't paying the taxes sufficient for the amount we spend to educate them in our over-burdened schools.
     
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    Angry at your people who advocate for illegal immigration.
     
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    Only if you consider sowing racism and hatred a positive result.
     
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    " obviously" is the last refuge of those who have no actual evidence.
     
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    Playing the race card is completely unnecessary here. This has to everything to do with an impoverished and potentially dangerous mob advancing toward our border.
     
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    No the anti Mexican anti black race card has been a part of Trump playing deck for a long time going back to his lying about Obama's birth certificate and his claims of All Mexicans as rapists and bad people.

    There is no threat to Americans from these poor people except of course for the hugh numbers of imaginary Middle East terrorists that Trump keeps claiming are in the caravan despite the fact that he has no evidence.
     
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    Kind of how they legally entered Mexico with force?
     
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    Someone answer a question for me.
    Let's say a family from one of the south American countries enters the US illegally, what will they do next?
    I mean imagine yourself illegally arriving in a country you have never been to before, where would be the first place you go. Would it be the local job fair, the welfare office, a motel? Any of these places should have a hotline to ICE so they can be picked up before they start dropping anchor babies. Of course if they are met by family members already illegally in the US it would be a bonus when they were all apprehended and deported together.
     
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    Specifically referred to undocumented immigrants.
     
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    Shock! John Kasich, After Long Years of Lying About It, Is Open Borders Too

    I love the claim that people shouldn't support Trump because he lies and you don't know what his real beliefs really are. Oh? Really? What would it be like to live under politicians who constantly lie to us and whose actual beliefs they conceal from us? Because I have no idea what that might be like!
     
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    No need to waste everyone's time. Anyone waving the flag of their home country can't possibly be persecuted by the same country.
     
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    Trump lies about everything and makes it up as he speaks to appeal to his base. Politicians don't blatantly lie about the obvious as he does. I would hope that even Trump doesn't believe his own gibberish.
    As for Kasich, he is informed and intelligent. Oh, and realistic. Trump is none of that and is in fact, quite the opposite.
     
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    Needless cost that could go to bolster Medicare, social security and US infrastructure.
     
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    If you use a little common sense you could figure this one out without having to see the stats. Do you seriously think this many impoverished persons pouring across our border are paying enough property taxes to cover all of their children that are busting our schools at the seams?

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    https://www.ajc.com/news/opinion/educating-illegal-immigrants-costly/Iafsqvt6ydowmSvgX9C4TM/
     
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    He was talking about the disproportionate number of rapists and bad people among illegal aliens. Never ever said that about all Mexicans so quit spreading the stupid lies because everyone knows you're full of crap when you spew nonsense like that.
     
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    The statistics don't support that. They always mix in legal aliens when they skew the stats that way.
     
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    That figure could be accurate because employers report wages and take out taxes from the wage of each employee. If they work, they pay taxes, and they work for survival whether they are legal or not. That is why they came here. Granted there are those who slide by and steal, etc. There are Americans in that same category. However, you are looking for reasons to denigrate them. They are roofers, landscapers, field workers, housekeepers--jobs that Americans won't do because it is too much like work.
    The Trump organization hires Immigrants, legal or not, because they can't find Americans to do that kind of work, and they point out that they pay 12-14 dollars per hour. My view is that if they don't want undocumented immigrants, then raise the wage to 20 dollars per hour to attract Americans. They talk out of both sides of their mouths as in the "buy American week" when Trump was importing his clothing line from China.
     
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    He was talking about a disproportionate number of rapists and bad people. That was a lie because he just assumed it to be a fact when he really didn't know. For Trump to say something stupid like that is typical of him.
     
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    They don't pay property taxes because they can't afford to buy property.
     
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    Kasich is the idiot son of a postage stamp. We tired of his lies. It was fun to watch Trump whip his ass.
     
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