Hydroxychloroquine pioneer Didier Raoult finally takes it back: it doesn't work

The source below is in a foreign language. I'm aware that we're not supposed to post a link to foreign language sources but I can't find one in English. I guess you guys can use Google Translate and this link although not in English is better than no link, lest someone accuses me here of making stuff up:

https://istoe.com.br/medico-defenso...edicamento-nao-reduz-mortalidade-da-covid-19/

What does it say: Didier Raoult, who is under investigation by the French medical board for ethical violations related to HCQ - specifically, being accused of touting unproven treatments a.k.a. quackery - finally took it back. He now admits to the fact that hydroxychloroquine doesn't work for Covid-19, with or without azithromycin, contrary to his previous claims; in the words of professor Raoult, it doesn't reduce mortality or use of ICU.

I did find news in English of the investigation the French Board is performing against him in advance of the disciplinary hearing:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/covid-professor-didier-raoult-hydroxychloroquine

When Raoult published his first and second papers on HCQ, which I read at the time shortly after they were released, I found the data to be unconvincing, biased and even misrepresented (the first study omits from the analysis the cases on HCQ that had bad outcome - death, ICU need - and the second study compares favorably an outpatient population on HCQ with an inpatient population not on it, and doesn't highlight this obvious problem since a patient in need of inpatient care is by definition experiencing a more severe case than a patient merely under outpatient care, so no wonder the outcomes for the former are worse than for the latter; it's a function of severity of illness, not a function of HCQ use). It seems like the French board feels the same way, and now Raoult himself has retracted his claims, likely afraid of the punishment he is about to face. Interesting...

This is the sad end of one of the biggest hoaxes in the history of medicine; that this medication that is useless for Covid-19 (although it is very helpful for malaria, lupus, and RA) got promoted as a game changer for the pandemic, and got adopted and touted by politicians, despite numerous randomized controlled trials showing no efficacy. Even Trump stopped talking about it (and when he caught Covid-19 his doctors did not prescribe HCQ to him) but there are still those who believe in it, from posters here, to the idiotic president of Brazil. Before someone says it doesn't reduce mortality because it's too late and it needs to be used early, do know that randomized controlled trials on early use and prophylactic use have debunked this notion too: it doesn't work in these situations, either. And if someone starts posting here studies showing that it works, do know that those are methodologically flawed observational studies (just like Raoult's, he says he doesn't believe in RCTs, LOL); the real RCTs, randomized controlled trials, show a very different picture.

Recently in Brazil, the city of Manaus got their healthcare system overwhelmed by the new and more infectious strain of the virus. The hospitals got short in oxygen and dozens of patients died suffocated. Venezuela of all places helped the hospitals in Manaus by donating and dispatching oxygen bottles... Meanwhile the president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro, sent his Minister of Health (a military man with no degrees and no knowledge of medicine whatsoever) to Manaus... one would think, "with a big shipment of oxygen, right?" No. The guy went there to... tout hydroxychloroquine as the solution for the crisis!!! Unbelievable!

 

Steady propaganda from Big Pharma.....

Has the narrative come unglued?

 

Didn't work, doesn't work, and won't work.

And all of the all of the Chumps, i mean Trumps and their associated anti-vaxers couldn't make work.

This every-rising death toll from COVID is a national tragedy. Hopefully that slaughter will begin to abate.

 

It will temporarily abate (and is currently doing so) until the B.1.1.7, the B.1.351, and the P.1 strains take over (by March for the first one, likely April for the other two), then the death toll will go up again (the last two are prone to evading vaccines and it is under consideration now that they may cause more severe disease in young and healthy people).

 

Yikes!

I just get a relief from being to take the vaccine scheduled Saturday, and these strains rise their heads!

Thanks for the further heads up, though. Seeing people with COVID struggling to breath or not even being able to turn to the side in their bed just makes it so astounding to these people who its just a fraud should go to the full wards of the sick and dying. I know most are probably paid to peddle their nostrums and vitamins, but its sad to pursuade fearful people to take real medicine.

 

I'm not sure I fully understand your last phrase. Who is being paid for what?

 

While I am many anti-vaxers are sincerely believing the $7 vaccinations are the pharmaceutical main reason for their reason to make billions, I feel like many of the anti-vaxers are part of or in a way to make spare money by steering regular people to get tk read how 8,000 miligrams of special expensive vitamin C and a dozen(s) of other megadoses of vitamins and exotic herbs from Northern Nepal and sea salts from Atlantis, etc

Two people I have known so far get a range from $.10 to a dollar depending of what gets posted and how many hits are hit, then how much discussion, whether a prospective person logs in and then to give a valid email and then further logs in again and buys something etc.

It can go pretty well financially if someone gets suckers, I mean, prospects, although its prospectors in very poor countries can do pretty well.

 

Oh, I see. You are right. These fools get exploited by con artists.

 

That’s a horrible bit of news. I was thinking that there may be an end in sight but perhaps not!

 

imagine that, this is what happens when politics overrides science

 

even Trump choose other drugs when it was his life on the line.... Hydroxychloroquine for thee, not for me, it seems

 

How many fingernails does he still have?


We need to consider anti virals
Vaccine approach is a failure.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/be-very-afraid.581537/page-5#post-1072416068

 

What’s the fingernail reference?

 

If he entered the room with 10 fingernails
how many did he have upon confession

 

Oh, ha de haha.

 

Some truly bright people would disagree but.....
they would conceded that it is not quite as effective as.....
Ivermectin.






Clinical Trials and Research News Weekly Roundup | S2 E27 | Ivermectin VS Hydroxychloroquine

 

The possible side effects of Invermectin are horrendous, far worse than the side effects of any vaccine

 

That is true but in the proposed dose range, severe neurological side effects for ivermectin are unlikely.

It is absolutely true, though, that the vaccines so far have had no life threatening side effects beyond anaphylaxis - which is occurring at a rate of 2 or 3 per 1 million doses for Moderna and 11 per 1 million doses for Pfizer. All of the people who had anaphylaxis have recovered. All cases of deaths in the days following the vaccine were looked at and deemed coincidental (8,000 people die per day in the US; the fact that the vaccines are being given preferentially to the elderly will mean that some of these people will continue to die at a regular rate, nothing to do with the vaccines).

So the bottom line is, the vaccines have been given so far to about 104 million people worldwide. Deaths from the vaccines: zero.

If people still fear that these vaccines are not safe, they are out of their minds.

 

From the several videos that I listened to yesterday I tend to strongly disagree with you!


https://www.globalresearch.ca/who-no-guarantee-covid-vaccines-prevent-people-being-infected/5734693

WHO: No Guarantee COVID Vaccines Will Prevent People from Being Infected

Well said!!!!

A mandated vaccine could bring revenue of ONE TRILLION..... those kinds of numbers tend to cause experts to lost some of their objectivity and altruism.

 

Including a certain member here? One I keep reporting for spam?

 

And the homeopathy nostrums and wild drugs like HCQ?

Take it from me - they are making SOMEONE money

 

Real side effects
or that endless list of possible side effects.

 

Real side effects. Out of many studies showing many deaths here is one study. Average age of side effect of death was 38 years old!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw31Yqo3T9cbAe7MepyMPTpq&cshid=1612427582255

 

Perhaps you should stop relying on videos for evidence? No one ever said that a vaccine will prevent people from being infected - that is not how the immune system works. The body responds to actually being infected to start to mass produce antibodies to fight the infection. A vaccine pre-arms the immune system with the right weapon to use against the infection

 

The possible side effects of just about every single drug advertised on TV by Pharma are horrendous. The possible side effects of driving on US highways are horrendous. Indeed, the possible side effects of living on this planet are horrendous.