I always predicted this...

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Truthfully, in discussions of what could destroy humanity - nuclear weapons, asteroid, gamma ray burst, massive environment crisis... I have always said disease created by humans messing around with micro organisms. If they do not ban this worldwide, there inevitably will be a mistake or attempted control usage that gets out of control - that slaughters the human race - like all the peoples of the Americas were over 90% killed by a European disease they had no immunity too - also accidental and unknown.

    Biological warfare research was banned worldwide. However lead by Dr. Anthony Fauci, there was a successful advocacy to allow a very partial lifting of the ban to build a huge biological warfare facility in Wuhan, China - which Anthony's agency, Bill Gates and many other Western financial and institutional heavy weight financed. The justification was claiming to be better prepared for such viruses either as weapons or natural evolution. They even came to by 2019 be predicting that a worldwide pandemic is all but certain.

    Now we are told covid-19, for which a new never-before-used theory on vaccines rushed into production before traditional time periods to learn of long term effects, is mutating into new strains around the world to vastly more contagious - now as much as 5,000% more contagious.

    Has it occurred to anyone that this was a bug they evolved, isolated and reproduced for research that got loose - and now it is an unplanned research trial run on how to fast find vaccines - the EXACT purpose of creating that virus research and manipulation laboratory?

    Is it deliberately vastly over exaggerated to prepare people for the inevitable big pandemic eventually coming?

    Is this a lab discovered or evolved changed or new novel coronal virus that will continue to rapidly evolve to ever more lethal and contagious forms faster than new types of vaccines can be found against each new strain? Will we be hearing 2 years from now that another 50 million died last month around the world, expecting this to rise to 100 million a month - and no one - absolutely no one - can stop it. Maybe this is the worldwide extermination biological or accidentally release biological event for which few humans will survive? Another black plague or worse level of death - and all the chaos that will bring?

    If so, no paper or cloth mask, standing 6 feet from others, washing your hands and not being in groups of more than 10 relatives - other than of course going to WalMart, the gas station and elsewhere - is going to save you. Nothing but going full hermit way far from everyone or down 100% of the time in some bunker - with a warfare level air filtration system for which you never leave until basically almost everyone is dead - will save you.

    This could be it folks. Game over. Biological checkmate.
     
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  2. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :blushes: ~ This guy will never get a virus. His "crown of fire " will destroy all airborne virus/bacteria within 15 feet. The mask is for added protection and local ordinance compliance .

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    You could always join us in helping bring people to their senses about masks, distancing, and shutdowns. The more we have on our team the better chance at victory we'll have. Just join up man its so easy, our goals are simple and obtainable.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are a whole load of assertions in the paragraph, all targeting popular hate-figures of the day, so I think you'd need to strongly support your specific accusations if you expect them to be taken seriously.

    It's been considered but there has certainly no evidence of any artificial manipulation (and lots of different organisations have studied it).

    I see zero justification to suggest that. I think they key question there would be how would any such reaction be co-ordinated, between the countless state and private organisations, all around the world?

    Viruses tend to evolve to be either more infectious or more virulent, not both and that appears to be the case here. The nature of the major COIVD vaccines mean that they should be similarly effective against all strains.

    That could happen with any virus but is highly unlikely either way. The kind of spin and empty speculation you're spouting here certainly doesn't help any of the efforts to prevent that kind of outcome though. Will you be disappointed if the human race isn't decimated and you're proven wrong?
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ Don't forget ! Global climate catastrophe will roast us all - but it will kill the virus too ! :sun:
     
  6. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are claiming there is no such thing as gain-of-function research and the huge Wuhan virus lab doesn't exist and that all is just a massive false news hoax and the Wuhan lab is photo shopped pictures?

    Do you claim the Wuhan Institute of Virology does not exist?

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    Do you claim gain of function research does not exist because it is impossible?

    Certain gain-of-function studies with the potential to enhance the pathogenicity or transmissibility of potential pandemic pathogens (PPPs) have raised biosafety and biosecurity concerns, including the potential dual use risks associated with the misuse of the information or products resulting from such research.

    On October 16, 2014, the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy announced the launch of the U.S. Government (USG) gain-of-function (GOF) deliberative process to re-evaluate the potential risks and benefits associated with certain GOF experiments. During this process the USG paused the release of federal funding for GOF studies anticipated to enhance the pathogenicity or transmissibility among mammals by respiratory droplets of influenza, MERS, or SARS viruses.

    https://osp.od.nih.gov/biotechnology/gain-of-function-research/
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, but that isn't what you said in the paragraph I quoted. You said there is a biological warfare facility in Wuhan, that Anthony Fauci advocated for lifting of restrictions to allow it to be built, and that various western individuals and organisations financed. I know there are facts behind your statements but there is no differentiation between those facts and any exaggeration, spin or misinterpretation, intentional or not. And when you're essentially suggesting named individuals could be responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths all over the world to some extent, I think you have some responsibility to be clear, honest and accurate with your statements.

    Anything is possible. I'm saying that people have considered the things you're suggesting but there is no evidence they're true. You might as well talk about the Chinese claims that the US were responsible via the Military World Games. Empty speculation is less than helpful. If you really want to help understand what got us to where we are today, you need to look in to things that actually happened, not things that could have happened (or the people you might like to be able to blame).
     
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    When they've been systematically terrorized for a year, when the herd has gone mad and is in stampede, people come to their senses slowly, and only one by one.
     
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    One of my favorites: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you!!!!!!
     
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    One of my favorites is FDR: Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own mind.
     
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    Or Montesquieu, there is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetuated under the shield of law and in the name of justice.
     
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    Masks, distancing, and shutdowns do not stop viruses, dude...

    Immune systems stop viruses. Sunlight (and other UV light) stops viruses.
     
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    Simple!

    Masks, distancing, and shutdowns do not stop viruses the same way as condoms and virginity stop reproduction.

    Without spread of infectious disease, the COVID can't reproduce!
     
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    You'd think that if a bug could destroy all of humanity, it would have happened by now, what, some umpteen million years of humans of one type or another walking the earth? That's why I doubt such a bug could happen, because we wouldn't be here if it were possible...............UNLESS

    A bug is planted on earth by aliens who have engineered a bug that nature could not do all be herself, an alien race of superio beings who want to reduce the population down to a smaller level that would:

    1. Make man much less of a threat to the planet's eco system
    2. Make the population much smaller so that they can have an easier job of enslaving us.

    Just sayin' :)

    Hey, anything's possible, eh?

    hah!
     
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    How does the virus spread if hygiene and social distancing (or lockdowns) are in effect?
     
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    Fauchi advocated and others financed it. Why in China?
     
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    What's the point of just repeating the same empty assertions? I was specifically asking for details and evidence.
     
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    It was widely reported that Fauchi was involved and it is in China. I would be interested to know why anyone but china would build such a facility there.
     
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    Lots of things get reported and they're not always entirely accurate or complete. That's why you need to understand all the facts before you start asking further questions and certainly before you start making any accusations.

    It seems even some very basic research would help you. For example, what makes you imagine anyone other than China built the facility in Wuhan?
     
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    Anthony Fauci: Top US health advisor Dr Fauci backed controversial Wuhan lab for risky coronavirus research | World News - Times of India (indiatimes.com)
     
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    Yes, now compare that with the accusations made in the OP that I was challenging like; "However lead by Dr. Anthony Fauci, there was a successful advocacy to allow a very partial lifting of the ban to build a huge biological warfare facility in Wuhan, China"

    What actually happened was that there has long been a virology research facility in Wuhan (not specifically bio-warfare), one of few of it's type in the world, and a whole range of organisations around the world worked together on a particular set of research in to coronaviruses, including work at the Wuhan lab. Fauci was one of countless people involved in that and it is obvious that the only reason he is being singled out here is because he was thrust in to the public eye and some people have taken to hating him for various "reasons".

    There are certainly valid questions to be raised about the nature of some of the work involved in this research (and lots of other research) but nobody here is actually asking those questions. It is just being used as a tool for personal politics.
     
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    The exact same way that it spreads if "hygiene and social distancing (or lockdowns)" were not in effect. This is an airborne virus. It survives intact in the air for many hours. It survives on surfaces for many hours.

    A mask will not stop it. Six feet apart will not stop it. Shutting down economies will not stop it.
     
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    Covid was made a political issue by politicians and bureaucrats, so that must be a factor in any calculation and conclusion.

    I wonder how many other virus during the history of mankind has been made into a political issue?

    Plandemic is the key factor in any calculation and conclusion. The evidence demonstrating its being planned is ample. Thank you men of Davos.
     
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    source this.

    A remotely evolved bug? Did they implant that bug with wifi?
    Is that how 5G works?

    It looks to the entire world that we're already in a pandemic.

    Why not take the scenario of the black plague or the Spanish flu? Why suddenly go all apocalyptical as in your random holywood movie?

    It's well known the plague ravaged through the place due to terrible hygiene.
    Maybe have a learning experience from the medieval times instead of making the same mistakes that feudal Joe made.

    are you related to....
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    We haven't evolved since the cavemen years of fearing mother nature.
    We really are just as intelligence as them lot.
    Some of us just lack the education part, and are hopeless.
    Hence flat earthers, people who storm the Capitol,
    People who think they can receive a healing through a tv screen

    It will happen again and again and again.
     
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    do you mask up properly when stepping into public?
     

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