I am obsessed with martial arts

Lol. My first sneeze after I tore the cartilage in my ribs was the scariest moment of my life.

 

And Gracie Jiu Jitsu is always evolving too.

Side note, not all Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

 

That's why, in order to be a complete fighter you've got to be well rounded. You've got to be proficient in stand up fighting, striking, and grappling including ground grappling.

 

But you can't guillotine your opponent like you can in Jiu Jitsu because its illegal in wrestling.

 

Been there, done that, hurt like hell.

 

Sure. Wrestling is more of a sport than a means of self defense.

Again, my only real point there is that a good wrestler has a great base of skills to carry on into actual self defense arts.

 

In a world of questionable pronouns, this thread does an old man's heart good.

 

A background in wrestling might help somewhat when learning self defense arts but this is just me, I would rather have a base of skills from Judo or Jiu Jitsu than from wrestling. With wrestling you can develop bad habits that would work fine when wrestling as a sport but not for self defense, not the least being that while on the ground turning on your front and giving your back to your opponent. In wrestling you would do that to avoid being pinned but in a real self defense situation, giving your back to your opponent like that is one of the worst things you can do.

 

Sure.

That's why I prefer hollow points to mei uchis.

 

True true. But at the same time jiu jitsu does far too much work off your back. The world isn't coated with mats, but with concrete and in jiu jitsu slams are illegal, but in real life you are getting slammed on the side walk.

Strong top game jiu jitsu with good takedowns is probably the best when it comes to a street fights. I think the double leg take down is the most practical self defense move in all martial arts. On concrete or into a wall that will end a fight right there. Even if your bottom jitz is good, you really don't want to end up on the bottom in a street fight. If I did though (And I wouldn't), forget the guard. Heel hooking is so much easier if the person is wearing a shoe. Good bye acl.

 

R.G. wrestling turns the ground, the walls and any hard surface into a deadly weapon. It is much more effective in the pod than boxing or even BJJ. BJJ is good one on one. It takes too long to choke someone out if he has friends around whereas you can crack his head open like a mellon with one good take down.

 

In some ways Judo is even better, some effect but you are still standing after a good throw and he has broken ribs or back on the concrete. Not on top of a guy with your back turned to his buddies. But like others have said, learn it all.

 

Everything I wrote about RGW is also true of judo, but judo also turns the others guys clothing into your weapon too.

 

Hollow points are all fine and dandy, if you can legally possess and use them.

 

There are anti grappling techniques that could put you in big trouble if you try using the double leg take down.

 

Took a hollow point 38 in the left leg in 1981. Jacked me up pretty badly. I was 18. It trashed my dreams of being a Marine.

Took a 22 long through the left hand in 1988. If not for my training, if I had just grabbed at it rather than block outwards, after the round went through my hand it would have gone into my center mass. As it went, I dislocated his right shoulder.
We were treated in beds right next to each other in the ER right across the street from where it happened.

I've also been stabbed pretty severely three times, but the worst was being hit in the face with a baseball bat. AND, if you think that's bad, think about this. I won. I made it. They're all dead, incarcerated or so addled by drugs that they might as well be dead. I made it. I MADE IT!!!!

 

You can't do a proper double on the street. You would break your lead knee. Perhaps on dirt or a beach, but a proper double depends on a mat.

 

Judo loses much effectivness without the GI !!!

 

Of course you can !! Do a standing MMA double. That is how do my double legs

 

I have a good standing double but my knee on the ground double is horrible

 

I pound my knee every time. Actually, I feel it in my hip I hit the mat so hard.

 

By anti-grappling you mean grappling? Only a good wrestler is stopping a double leg. Everyone else is getting slammed into the cement.

 

I've mostly done no gi judo. I like jacket wrestling okay b

I practice mine literally everyday when I wake up, wake up, drink coffee and practice double leg movement. A lot of the time on a wooden floor. You can do it without slamming the knee to the ground.

 

MMA they do standing double legs

 

It's called a blast double in wrestling. I like a blast double okay, but you are more like to end up in the guard. Blast double definitely good for self defense as I really doubt you are going to have to worry about the guard.

I do like 95% double legs. The rest I just learn for defense. Honestly unless someone was a good wrestler in high school and college their sprawls are normally not that good.