I am sick of recreational abortion! Keep my tax dollars away from mass murderers!

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Aquarius, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Ignorant post on your part. If R vs. W. was overturned, all it would do is put abortion laws back in the hands of the individual states, and of those, less than 20 would have all out bans on abortion. Those states that did have bans are close enough for the majority of women who want abortions to simply travel over state lines to get one.

    Anti-abortionists seem to forget that we had a ban on abortions for years - all it did was send women with means to other countries and the poor to hidden clinics. It did not stop abortion. What reduced abortions was education and easier access to contraception of the last two decades (moving condoms from behind the counter and reducing the negative stigma of available contraception).
     
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    UGGA DUHH...the unborn is inside her and the newborn isn't....didn't you know that ?? LOL!! So it is different..

    See, the unborn doesn't need it's diapers changed or need to be burped.....so it's different...

    No woman is obligated to take care of her unborn or born.....




    If you think the unborn are not part of the woman , AS YOU HAVE STATED, then they have NO need to be in the woman. Why should they just float around unattached (as YOU think they are) not part of the woman ...then why are they even IN the woman ...why can't they be taken out IF THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE WOMAN AS you CLAIM????
     
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    WHAT TF does marital status have to do with a woman's right to get an abortion????
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need to keep abortion legal so that mothers can choose the slain. After all, moms know.
     
  5. Daniel Light

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    They do know if they are ready to be mothers - or add to their family. They know their own bodies. They know they may not be ready for motherhood. It's not something you can force on a woman unless you are ready to reduce them to mere sperm receptacles and incubators. Every woman is different. Their bodies are different. Their mental states are different. You seem to want to force them into a little box and are mad they hold up a collective middle finger to your efforts.
     
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    Please show your proof that "Democrats want to kill black babies" ….and the part of RvW that says they can.....


    Funny how people with "morals" LOVE funding wars....
     
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    If people cannot get abortions because they cannot pay for them, where are the tax dollars going to come for to pay for the care of the children who end up in the care of the state? Abortion is a one time cost; the state raising a child is an ongoing cost.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What gives you the right to smoke? You're killing yourself in the long run.
     
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    :applause:Bravo!
     
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    Even given all of the differences between women that you cite, they are far better qualified to choose the slain than you.
    Do you really think that a mother would kill the wrong baby, especially if that baby was hers?
    Do you really think that you know better than their very own mothers who should be killed?
    I believe that we should keep abortion legal so that mothers can choose the slain; after all, moms know.
     
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    You've repeated this concept often enough.

    I'm sorry you're not old enough to understand the seriousness of the issue.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not nearly as interesting as the frequency of your attentions would imply. Can we please discuss the ideas rather than me?
     
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    Your idea is weightless and vile.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's your conclusion. I'd like to read your argument. I don't find your conclusion very persuasive.
     
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    "Recreational Abortion" is an offensive and disingenuous term....I doubt very much than ANYONE has surgery for fun, let alone makes life changing decisions on a whim.
     
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    My argument? Did you not read my previous statements? Figures.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. I didn't get past the ad hominins.

    Yeah, upon review, your statements are almost all ad hominin attacks. We still have not read your argument. Why is that you think that you know better who should be killed than their very own mothers? Why do you have a problem with keeping abortion legal so that mothers can choose the slain? After all, Lucifer, moms know.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Please show your proof that "Democrats want to kill black babies" ….and the part of RvW that says they can.....


    Funny how people with "morals" LOVE funding wars....




    I asked for proof and got ancient , erroneous , ridiculous, warped version of history....NO proof...
     
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    She has an obligation to take care of of both her unborn and newborn.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Post #111 made a false statement and I was correcting them on it with CDC data.

    Try to keep up!
     
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    If you don't like the proof I provided, throw a temper tantrum.
     
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    Glad you agree then. Its always nice to be able to find common ground with others, even a patio's worth. That's actually one of the reasons I set up that Ranked vote as well as the others. So that we might find such areas of agreement, even if completely unexpected, perhaps even resolve some otherwise contentious disagreements. Unfortunately, there are some folks out there who would much prefer to keep contentious issues like abortion alive indefinitely, by whatever means available to them... not that the rest of us actually have to listen to or follow the lead of such folks. ;)

    -Meta
     
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    I definitely agree contraception is a big factor that should be considered on this issue, one that oftentimes gets overlooked.
    BTW, what are your thoughts on these Abortion Ranked vote results.
    Do you feel like they would make for a pretty good compromise on the issue?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/pf-abortion-reform-compromise.550627/
    -Meta
     
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    All the more reason to set a cutoff point at 24 weeks gestational (viability) with exceptions for the life/health of the mother, rape, incest, or fetal abnormalities... that gives women plenty of time to decide on whether or not they want an abortion, and there ought be no concerns at that point of inflicting any sort of pain or mental anguish unto the developing fetus.

    What say you on this @Lucifer?
    Would a 24 week gestational cutoff point for legal abortions + exceptions for life/health of the mother,
    rape, incest, or fetal abnormality be a sensible way to handle things in your opinion?

    -Meta
     
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    Completely arbitrary, obviously.
    Neither in principle nor in practice can the absence of either be reliably determined in the earliest stages of pregnancy.
    Clearly your understanding of your point leaves pretty much everything to be desired.
    That is notihng like a reasonable inference from anything I said, obviously. What is reasonably inferrable is that excepting zygotes, no individual human cells have more relevance to this discussion than what comes outa my ass.
    Of course it is, until an artificial womb is invented.
    By your own logic, there's no reason you shouldn't be. You get that, right?
    I'll let you figure that one out. Use a calculator if you have to.
     

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