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I Am the 1 Percent Used to Justify 100 Percent of Abortions

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by MolonLabe2009, May 17, 2019.

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Rape is a violent act, but abortion is also a violent act.

    The innocent unborn should not be the one's punished for an act that someone else did.

    There are many people that have been born whose mother's were raped and these people are living happy, productive and fulfilling lives.
     
    MolonLabe2009, May 17, 2019
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So...you and the mothers of these other people were allowed to have a choice to bear the pregnancy...but you want to deny that choice to others.

    Yeah, I understand. You anti-choice people are transparent.
     
    Frank, May 17, 2019
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    And the mother had a CHOICE to carry to birth - she wasn't FORCED to carry to birth. No pro-choice person has argued against that. No mother should die of complications of birth if she has been FORCED to carry her rapist's fetus to term. Rape is force.
    Forcing a raped woman to carry the rapist's fetus is a second rape.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    The unborn has a right to live and not be killed.
     
    MolonLabe2009, May 17, 2019
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    The unborn do not trump the lives and health of the born.
     
    Daniel Light, May 17, 2019
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    The unborn don’t have rights. They aren’t people. They have protections. There’s a difference.
     
    DaveBN, May 17, 2019
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    Tell that to all the unborn and small children that have been killed around the world by American Bombs over the Years. If were going to be so concerned over innocent Children being punished for acts someone else did, then along with abortion, War should also be completely banned.
     
    TheAngryLiberal, May 17, 2019
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    Ultimately the discussion pertaining to abortion comes down to one specific fact. No matter what course of action is taken, one involved party is always going to be victimized at the expense of another party. Thus it becomes a question of whose victimization is deemed acceptable when compared to the victimization that would be experienced by the other party.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Yes, they do.
     
    MolonLabe2009, May 17, 2019
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    Who came up with that rule that a baby moments before they pop out of the Womb, doesn't have rights. Apparently people who were lucky enough to not have been aborted made up the rules and decided that the unborn shouldn't have any rights. Just because someone decided this, doesn't necessarily mean it's morally right.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Says who? Man?

    Man makes laws and man can change laws.

    Science (biology) tells us that the Human life cycle begins at conception and ends at natural death.
     
    MolonLabe2009, May 17, 2019
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Off topic and a separate issue.

    Start your own thread about wars.
     
    MolonLabe2009, May 17, 2019
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    Which is their CHOICE to do. CHOICE being the key word.
     
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    In your opinion, what are we to do?
     
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    It would seem that different people have a differing opinion in that issue. If one is to believe in the concept of "Inalienable Rights", then the argument could certainly be made that the unborn does have rights....especially once a heartbeat is present or brainwave activity takes place. However, I can also see the argument as to the rights of the mother to decide what to do with her own body.
     
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    Government interference and rape are not that far apart!
     
    Doofenshmirtz, May 17, 2019
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    I abhor abortion. It’s wrong and shouldn’t be done.

    I abhor taking away the rights of woman to control her body even more.
     
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    That's almost my exact mantra... I would just add the word 'frivolously' after shouldn't be done to make it exactly mine...
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, didn't take long to shutdown this "current events" thread (??)
     
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    Sentience determines personhood. Prior to sentience all we are is nerves reacting to stimulus. A developing fetus should have all the same protections as the skin cells falling from my face when I shave. A third party is not allowed to harm them without my consent. I am free to do with them as I see fit.
     
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    Human life, in and of itself, does not equal personhood.
     
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    Other people’s opinions have no bearing on what a woman does with her body, or science for that matter.
     
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    Personhood?

    Another man made term.
     
    MolonLabe2009, May 17, 2019
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    Where is that determined? When does sentience take place? Does brainwave functionality indicate sentience? Myself, I find any argument that sentience takes place at the exact moment of birth to be a fairly weak argument.
     
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    The fetus isn't her body. It's a another body with unique DNA.
     
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