I am voting for Trump, Change my mind.

No really, see if you can present an argument to change my mind. I will try to keep up with this thread.

 

Yup. Like a guy who has "Rush is right" is going to vote non-Republican. If Trump was clinically insane, and you would shrug it off. Trumpism is a cult.
Are you asking for an intervention?

 

Well damn! You didn't even try! You could have come at me with Rush is wrong and here is why: but you didn't.

 

I doubt yoyyou would respond to an argument from jesus christ himself so why should a mere mortal even try?

Imo most trump voters have no idea if he has helped them economically. There is so little difference as to be hard to discern it. I am retired but the working people including my kids have seen no difference economically and certainly not an improvement in security that my generatiob had and took for granted.

I do not blame trump for any of this because he did not create a disemboweled America nor did he give us neoliberal globalism that perot tried to warn us about.

Given what trump inherited and his attempt to make changes in free trade that is reason enough to vote for him .While knowing the next oligarch president could reverse what trump has tried to do in bringing back value added jobs.

Unlike every president since Reagan trump at least ran on representing working Americans whether he has helped them or not. Given both parties gave us the 1099 gig part time jobs of service sector globalusm that trump inherited we shouldnt expect too much from trump for it would take decades to make a difference for our dwindling middle class. A service sector econony doesn't create a middle nor sustain it.

Trump voters should vote for him again. And those old fdr dems should vote for sanders. Or anyone who think that the dems should again be the party of the average worker.

For me if the dems noninate a Clinton dem I may as well vote for trump just for the sake of principle . We might be better off with trump over a sold out Clinton dem who despises folks that are not in the professional class

 

Do you have any idea how few current supporters of Donald Trump I want near me, my party or my candidate? The probabilities are that I won't want you voting for my candidate. Its not like most current Trumpsters have been demanding decency and integrity for their support in the candidate they support now. No thanks. Stay where you are. Statistically speaking whoever you are, you are probably what I refer to as a 'bad influence' on your candidate

 

Trump won because the DP stopped representing working people in the 90s. Trump was smart enough to pick up the thousand dollar bill on the sidewalk.

This observation came from Franks a liberal and he wrote a book about it.

Your way of thinking is just wrong I saw this before I read Listen Liberal and it was so obvious that I called the last election for trump. Public record here. For if you understand what is going on between the coasts it is easier to predict. People have been wanting change since Obama ran on it but forgot his promises and became a wall st. President.

It was only a matter of time before the huge swath of people not being represented woke up. . These people supported sanders and trump.

AAnd these people are the enemy of the corporate dems and the globalist GOP And apparently your enemy.

Both parties would rather ignore this especially Clinton democrats

 

None of this is remotely relevant to my views. Its not ideological or political . I view the sort of people who continue to support a sociopath, demagogue and wanna-be despot for president as a toxic presence in the body politic. Trump is the symptom, they are the virus, the infectious agent that will likely turn any candidate they infect into a similar creature. I don't want them within a thousand miles of the democratic party nominee. As a rule I don't want our nominee to even try to get the votes of deplorables. They are just plain bad news.

 

I can only give you one !!!!

Here goes ...
Do you want to live in a nation that resembles the crime, poverty and violence of Mexico City and Sudan

 

Do you care about your own survival or kids ? ??

You better flee the cities in a few years as you won’t walk out the front door

 

Many people in America support helping the young and the poor and giving them a fair shot at future success. Many of the issues in the way of moving people up through the middle class and beyond are due to Republican policies from the argument that people should "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" which doesn't match the real world, not everyone is born equal, and just increases the inequality between the wealthy and the lower classes.

Trump is trying to benefit America by tearing down our international trade agreements which will only improve the lives of Americans if he is able to negotiate new terms in problem areas, and that's going to take time. Time he might not have because it's 2020 already, an election year. But anyone can make good terms in a trade treaty, including Democrats. So there's not much reason to vote for Trump in a second term.

 

If you like ignorant narcissists then Trump is your man. The very fact you still support him means you are impervious to reason or logic.

 

How do describe the color yellow to a person who only sees in black and white - someone who thinks yellow is the fake news of the devil?

 

Yellow is the fake news of the devil. Remember Hillary in a yellow pants suit.

 

Cult members will drink poison before accepting the truth

 

Lol.

Why would you expect anyone to waste keystrokes on something like this?

As far as my input to your "challenge":

Vote your "conscience". That is my advice.

 

If you’re voting off economic data, job creation and wages after inflation grew faster the last three years of Obama than they have during Trump’s first three years.

The debt is growing crazy fast though that is similar to the last Republican administrations.

His attack on the rule of law and constitution should be an automatic disqualifier but I understand unAmericanism is in vogue these days.

My advice is vote your conscience. It’s your voice.

 

Dead on.

And they still have no idea how much damage they've done.

If left unchecked, they would have a full-blown dictator holding public executions for entertainment, in no time.

 

What has he tried to do?

We make a lot of money selling services to the world. Many highly paid employees.

Trump talks and talks (and talks) about doing right by workers, but his policies and spending priorities say otherwise.

 

Why should we?

If you are unable to see Trump for what he is then no amount of logic from me will persuade you otherwise

 

I am not touching this with a barge pole!

 

And yet it is the repipublicans that will not address the root cause of that problem


Too many guns

 

I was counting my guns yesterday and came to the conclusion that I have not enough. So I disagree.

 

All the people posting "Nah, I don't care too. Your type is beyond redemption"

Yet they saw the thread title, clicked it. Read it and replied saying they did not want to reply.

Too funny...you lefties are just too funny...

 

Wow, this is the sort a hateful rhetoric that inspires violence. ^

 

I forgot I made this thread, I did read the replies But this sums it up:

Thanks for that!