I AVOID GOING TO THE MOSQUE MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE INCITEMENT

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

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    British-Palestinian human rights activist Ahlam Akram appeared on a Hewar TV show, where she said that the mosque plays a negative role in promoting acceptance of the other. "I have stopped going to the mosque," she said. "Why? The one main reason is the culture of incitement." Akram further said that "if we believe in the values of democracy, we should abide by the British laws, [which] guarantee justice, equality, and freedom." The show aired on March 10.

    Ahlam Akram: "The most important thing that the new refugees coming here should understand is that in this country, their rights are protected and they are respected. Your identity is not determined by the color of your skin, your appearance, or the hijab you are wearing. Here, they care about your human identity more than about your appearance. The one condition is that you do not become a burden on society. Let me tell you something – I refrain from going to any mosque, or rather, I have stopped going to the mosque. Why? The one main reason is the culture of incitement. Secondly, when I went to Regent's Park Mosque, I had to go through the toilets to get to the women's section."

    Male Panelist: "Saying such a thing is offensive. This may have happened to you once, but it is not the case in all mosques."

    Ahlam Akram: "I went a few times, and I saw and heard the way they talked to me as a woman, and the way they told me to hide myself and enter through the toilets. Let me say it loud and clear: The entrance to the women's section of Regent's Park Mosque is through the toilets. How am I supposed to feel about that?"

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    Moderator: "So what exactly are you saying? That the mosque is a barrier to integration, or what? I want to understand."

    Ahlam Akram: "The mosque has played a very negative role in developing..."

    Moderator: "The culture of accepting the other..."

    Ahlam Akram: "Exactly.

    [...]

    "If we really believe in the values of democracy – how come there is no democracy in our countries of origin?"

    Female Panelist: "This is a great problem. That's why we need revolutions."

    Ahlam Akram: "If we believe in the values of democracy, we should abide by the British laws, because these laws guarantee justice, equality, and freedom. These are all guaranteed by law. We use the word ['democracy'] just like that, as if it has no meaning. This is evidence in our unwillingness to commit ourselves to British law. We have established our own laws for our societies.

    [...]

    "Our laws, which are derived from our culture and our religion, were appropriate 1,400 years ago, but not anymore."

    Moderator: "I don't want to reach the point of an affront to our religion..."

    Ahlam Akram: "I am not affronting Islam. You misunderstood me.

    [...]

    "We are lying to ourselves. We all say that we believe in the values of democracy, but democracy is totally absent from our countries and our minds.

    [...]

    "Integration does not mean that my son or my daughter will have no connection to their country [of origin]. On the contrary. I believe that their feelings and thoughts on this run much deeper than ours. You don't need to be constantly telling your son what happened in Palestine. What matters is the way your present it, in addition to personal experience. I tried to take my children every year to visit [Palestine]. And indeed, they have become connected to the country through their love for it, for its people, and for their family. But if you told me to let my son live there or told me that he could possibly live there – that's inconceivable. Inconceivable!"

    https://www.memri.org/tv/british-pa...kram-i-avoid-the-mosque-because-of-incitement
     
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    If he feels coerced or intimidated in the mosque he goes to, then he should try another one. I mean there are plenty more around.
     
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    Apocalypse akbar! :headbang:
     
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    If I remember correctly... the word "apocalypse" simply means revealing.........
    and we are in a time period when Muslims, Jews and Christians have some pressing
    problems facing us that we will need to cooperate on in order to solve.

    Here is an ancient Islamic prophecy that most of us can agree could assist in bringing us closer together and away from all out nuclear WWIII.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...illion-dollar-problem.525406/#post-1068900042

     
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    Yes that's right, Dennis, in Greek "Apocalypse" means "Revelation".

    Actually, it's wealth and more accurately greed that will eventualy destroy the world. People fighting over stuff - kaboom!
    It's happened many times before.
     
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    But.... an off the scale brilliant poster on this forum
    introduced me to the mathematics behind Multiverse Theory.......
    that he was working on along with some of his buddies from MIT.....
    and one of the potential philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory......
    (that might be the same idea as many, many fulfillment's of Ezekiel chapter 37).....
    is non- linear time......
    or new time lines being spun off from a moment in what we think of as the "past".... and
    these new time lines can involve less and less and less and less bloodshed, pain and suffering.....
    until a whole new world is ushered in in which......
    "nothing will hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain..... because the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord"


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...cal-implications-of-multiverse-theory.424926/

    The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

    and for the record....
    that poster has been nominated for an extremely important role in history.......
    basically..... he is set up to play an important role in something that the decade or so old Jerusalem Sanhedrin has challenged President Trump and President Putin to tackle...... the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/page-3

    Auditions for the role of Elijah needed....


    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101679/jewish/The-Personality-of-Mashiach.htm
     
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    For the record.......
    I believe that this statement is true.... and fits with non-linear time........
    and applied Multiverse Theory... .in other words the time line shown to near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley back in 1975... for 1990 - 2020 or so......
    could already have happened... in another time line....... or should we perhaps say ... example of applied Multiverse Theory......?

    (post #113):

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...plications-of-multiverse-theory.424926/page-6

    http://www.qsl.net/w5www/brinkley.html

     
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    Or... he could read "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" by Robert Mendelson and begin to promote the ideas in it in that Mosque... especially to Islamic Mystics who are at least somewhat open to ideas like reincarnation.

    God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land



     
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    Well that sounds amazing, Dennis, but unfortunately humans stay human and I'm not very optimistic. The regress and dumbing down of the general population is vissible with a naked eye.
     
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    True...... but my wife and I are seeing some amazingly positive change in our children and their friends over these past five years.

    Frankly..... we are in a state of near awe...... and yes.... our kids and their friends are welded to their iphones.... just like most North American kids..... but massive positive changes can still take place within months in their lives.

    My daughter started watching youtube videos by a former drug addict named Todd White..... .and his teachings metaphorically set her on fire for G-d!
     
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    I don't think I will surprise you Deniss, but have you heard about Nick Vujicic?

     
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    Yes..... astounding...........!!!!!

    .. And he and his wife have four children already!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Vujicic

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