I Can NOT Be Killed. By JAG September 26, 2021 My body can be killed, but "I" can NOT be killed. Why not? Because I am not my body. "I" am not my liver, kidneys. arms, legs, feet or fingers. I am not my brain. My brain is nothing more than a flesh and blood computer than makes it possible for "I" to interact with my surroundings. My arms, legs, feet, fingers, and brain will one day die, but "I" will live on and on forever. "Jesus said . . . the one who believes in Me will live, even though they die, and whoever lives by believing in Me will never die." John 11:25-26 "My sheep listen to My voice. I know them and they follow Me. I give then eternal life and they shall never perish." __The Lord Jesus John 10:27-28 "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 So? So those two fierce killer generals, General Time and General Death, can never kill me. Because . . . "I" can NOT be killed. Thoughts? ``
I totally agree. I am not christian, and my views likely depart from your in many areas, especially the reincarnation bit, but at its core it is saying similar things. We are not our bodies. These bodies are just vessels for our spirit/soul/consciousness or whatever you want to call it. In my belief system, there is a separation between the thoughts of the body (the ego), and the "I am", the higher self, the spiritual true self. That is part of what meditation is about. Observing the thoughts of the ego through the lens of the higher self. Observing those thoughts and recognizing that they come from the ego, not the higher self, and then dismissing them after they have been observed. So yeah, I agree with you. the "I" cannot be killed.
I agree in the belief that a human is more than the sum of its parts, and the death of those parts is but a transition for the [whatever one wishes to call it] that remains.
I am always curious. What does a soul do? Without a body do we crave entertainment, knowledge, relationships?
That does not sound very exciting. I mean the reason we differentiate between the state of life and death is because when we are alive we can do stuff. When we are dead we cannot. I am not sure what Galactic energy does.
Well, we really don't know what happens, if anything, when we die, do you? Do we cease to exist in this form, do we cease to exist period, are we reincarnated? Are we some form of life energy seeking a vessel (and generally without memory for most). Are who we are just brain electricity and a body? Does everyone have a soul that is reborn or only some? WTF knows, I don't. But, I refuse to believe that I simply cease to exist when my physical body dies. As I said, I kinda like the idea of immortality or rebirth !
I believe that between incarnations is partly integrating what we have learned in our time as a human, partly guiding other souls. I believe we largely travel with the same "family" of souls, interacting with them over and over again in different relationships. In one, you may be the father to a son. In the next maybe your son is now your boss. Or maybe your captor. We arrange what lessons we wish to learn through experience in our next incarnation, making agreements with other souls in how the interaction is to take place. Eventually, we try to experience all there is to experience, from every point of view. One lifetime we will incarnate as Biden or similar. The next lifetime we incarnate as Trump, lol. But really it is always all happening simultaneously, as time is just an illusion that we experience while incarnated here on earth. And in the very end, we finally realize that all along we were all just the same being playing all the different roles of everyone on Earth. We were all just God all along, because God is all there ever was. And then it all starts over again. Or something along those lines anyway.
RE: I Can NOT Be Killed. SUBTOPIC: What are you? ⁜→ JAG, et al, BLUF: What is LIFE? What is DEATH? What does it mean to be KILLED? Is this a theory that there is an exsitance beyond death? (PREFACE) This is a question for the Metaphysics branch of study. Before you can rationally discuss this topic, you have to understand and be able to define the terminology that you are using. (COMMENT) To be "killed" is more of a legal question and often a layman's interpretation of the termination of life. But to be "killed" in the classical sense in which the spirit of the original question is presented a not very interesting question at that. But during the course postmortem, the Pathologist will (hopefully) determine the "cause of death" (COD). Metaphysics is an inquiry into those issue which are NOT answerable through the scientific method; sometime referred to as that which is beyond empirical evidence. For instance, String Theory is in the realm of Metaphysics; even though some of our most recognized physicist discuss it. Metaphysics asks the questions about the Theory of First Motion -- the essence of the source of the original energy that created the first subatomic particles that produced the rapid expansion of the universe (AKA: The "Big Bang"). When Dr Brian Greene, professor of physics and mathematics at Columbia University, discusses the Multiverse, it is a subject that cannot be validated through the Scientific Method. (TO THE QUESTION) Is there such a thing as a "Life Force" or something of "a being beyond clinical death?" The question of a "Life Force" is → in a way → implied when the question is inclusive of the claim: "My body can be killed, but "I" can NOT be killed." This needs to be more refined. When you address these types of questions, you have to avoid being sucked into the question of the paranormal. And that is really easy to do when you address these types of questions. Some people have recorded what is know as an "out of body experience" in the case of "near death" commonly referred to as a "Near Death Experience" (NDE). I recommend that the original claim (I cannot be killed) be adjusted. Most Respectfully, R
Thanks for your comments. Interesting. Just for the record . . . Regarding Reincarnation: I don't believe in Reincarnation. I got the impression from your post that you are under the impression that I believe in Reincarnation. My view: The New Testament will not permit the idea of the reincarnation of the soul. Best Regards, JAG
The New Testament says when we die we immediately go to be with the Lord. The New Testament also says that we will get our new glorified bodies later at the final Resurrection. So? So what do we do while we wait for our new glorified body? Here is my speculation: Maybe the Lord will give us temporary physical bodies to use while we wait for out new glorified bodies. Why wouldn't He? Physical bodies are created here on earth in the trillions, worldwide historywide, if your count all the bodies of all the humans, animals, birds, and sea creatures. So? So it would be no big deal for the Sovereign God to give us temporary physical bodies to use while we wait for our new glorified bodies ~~ so we can enjoy your "entertainment, knowledge, and relationships." Whadda ya think? Best Regards, JAG ``
Thanks for your efforts. We're all different. I keep it simple. "Jesus said . . . the one who believes in Me will live, even though they die, and whoever lives by believing in Me will never die." John 11:25-26 I reply Amen. Yes. I believe what you say. Jesus said: "My sheep listen to My voice. I know them and they follow Me. I give then eternal life and they shall never perish." John 10:27-28 I reply Amen. Yes. I believe what you say. "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Same reply. ____________ But , , , For the sake of discussion; How would you adjust it? You said the claim should be adjusted. How would you adjust it? Best. JAG ``
So do you believe thing based on whether they are true, or you like them? I would like to win a billion dollars, but I don't think it is likely. Should I believe it?
I was watching on YouTube the harvesting of fish from the sea next to Iceland. As the Fish fought for their lives in the nets, I was wondering if those were the non believers of Jesus and God that God allowed a new life?
Or are the fish the believers caught in the net of faith thinking they are going to a better place only to end up plokkfiskur.
