I can't stand China.

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  1. Lucifer

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    So you extrapolated from two deaths that all of their virus experts (even though they were not epidemiologists) are dead?

    And now you want me to prove a negative?

    Seriously? You just can't admit that your statement was wrong, can you? You're obviously wanting to believe this and when called out on it, you backtrack.
     
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    Nazi fantasizes, are those not conservative fantasies. Speaking of that, notice that it has been a long time since anyone has heard about the violence from right wing gangs in liberal strongholds. Of course conservative land had been pretending that the violence was all the doing of the anti fascists. Yet the violence ended after the police started arresting the violent right wing gang members and charging them with felonies. That and the million dollar lawsuits they are now facing.

    Meanwhile the anti fascists roam free without incident.
     
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    They used to do that in the US. They would even bring in the national guard to do the shooting. They even shot at the worker’s wives and children. The history of unions and the rise of the middle class is full of striking workers being beaten and killed by hired thugs.


     
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    Probably a good idea that we start doing something about that.
     
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    The Chinese people are great. There is profound philosophy from Confucius and Lao Tzu and there is the very humble religion of Buddhism which espouses principles similar to Christian

    Unfortunately, Marxism, the totalitarian system that despises religion, hence also philosophy in general, was forced upon the Chinese people by Mao Tse Tung.

    The current Chinese Communist Government is a question mark. They may transform eventually to a more free society , given the integration of capitalist trade with Europe and the USA

    Or, they may take a path forged by technocracy corporations like Apple,Google, FaceBook, and Microsoft, and with a quantum computer AI system , attempt to enslave every human on earth ,or worse, attempt to create a hybrid of machine and human

    China has the same decision to make as the USA does ,which is to remain a nation/state with its own unique culture, language, and history of philosophy or to submit to an oligarchy of globalist totalitarians with nightmare vision of an AI controlled society of androids and hybrid human cyborgs and all history erased
     
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    Please stop your "without incident" nonsense. We've been over this before.
    I'm over here still not holding my breath waiting for you to face reality.
     
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    I have enough hate for both Trump and the Chinese government which he has praised numerous times.
     
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    He has given China praise when it's due, and criticism when it's due.

    Which of those is the wrong thing?
     
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    It's a good thing Trump's here to protect us from the Chinese. Mexicans and anyone who isn't white.

    And anyone who claims that his mismanagement allowed the coronavirus to spread across the country like wildfire forgets that Trump has a strategy.

    He'll come up with one later.

    In the stable stable genius we trust.
     
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    In order to get love from his xenophobic base, Trump criticized China.

    For his real estate projects, he bought dozens of millions of dollars worth of Chinese steel and aluminum.
     
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    Are you saying that China deserves no criticism for their handling of the corona virus?
     
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    So that you could ignore the warnings a little earlier than you ignored the warnings?
     
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    Over 21 doctors and many nurses have died in Italy too. Were they whistle-blowers killed by the Italian government?
     
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    It's wasn't just the US, China hid it from the entire world.

    You seriously don't see that as a problem?
     
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    I’ve seem the reality up close. I live in the heart of Portland and once the members of Patriot Prayer started getting arrested, charged with felonies and hit with million dollar lawsuits, along with losing their jobs due to their criminality, the violence stopped.

    Not like Patriot Prayer were not criminals to begin with. We always knew they were an ignorant prison gang on the outside. Cold, hardened criminals. But then that is a Republican trait isn’t it, criminality. When Nixon was president, large numbers of Nixon’s people were charged with crimes and sent to prison. Same with Reagan and the Bushes. Lots of criminal activity, lots of people charged with crimes and sent to prison. Just like with Trump. Carter’s people were not criminals nor Clinton’s, even though the Republicans spent a massive amount of effort to dig something up. Then of course there was Obama, a man too honorable and competent to ever be accepted by Republicans.

    It has long been the practice of Democrats, to push out those with criminal, or just inappropriate activities. With Republicans, the criminals become their heroes. People like G Gordon Liddy and Oliver North.

    That characteristic can also be seen in right wing media, which is mostly propaganda and quite dishonest, and misleading. I’m sure it is more than a coincidence that pretty much the only group in the world who deny global warming are those who just happen to be Evangelicals and regularly listen to right wing media. The same group that opposes abortion yet tends to be rather accepting of sexual assault.

    It is quite comical when those on the right claim to have higher morals.
     
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    How does smashing windows and starting fires stop right-wing violence?

    Did you see left-wing crazies smashing windows and starting fires in Portland as a problem?

    Since you've seen the reality of what happened in Portland close up, could you tell us who was smashing windows and starting fires?
     
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    In April 1918, American soldiers stationed in Kansas were sent to Europe to fight.

    Several of them had the Spanish flu and they were the very first to be infected.

    The US did not pay a penny for the victims of this pandemic, which killed 50 million people....

    The coronavirus could have appeared anywhere on earth. If China had not taken drastic measures on its own territory, it would be in the same situation as the US is in today: the virus would be out of control and hundreds of thousands of Chinese would have died.

    The number of casualties associated with a pandemic is directly related to the actions taken by governments and the level of seriousness with which they respond to the threat at the earliest signs.

    Trump mocked the threat as soon as it appeared, so all Americans will suffer.
     
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    You didn't answer my question.

    Evasion noted.
     
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    Yes I did.

    Maybe you should read it more carefully.
     
  21. truth and justice

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    Let's try again.

    Are you saying that China deserves no criticism for their handling of the corona virus?
     
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    Lol...Guess why.
     
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    If they initially found no clear evidence of human to human transmission then they haven't lied!

    Which bit don't you get? Meanwhile the rest of the world ignored the later evidence of human-to human transmission passing it off as just a cold, will disappear in a few days, flu is much worse.
     

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