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  1. Laurence123

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    There should be mandatory curricula that includes U.S. constitution, arithmetics, sciences, American English, history, economics, family and consumer sciences, health and wellness and also natural survival skills in its most comprehensive form be given to all students in the United States public school system. The complete elimination of standardized tests as they are interruptive to the base education curriculum. It seems they are only implemented for an unnecessary exhaustive excuse for statistical purposes and are not needed nor wanted. A funding structure that is equal and fair be given to all public schools. A federal funding structure that at least provides half of that of the defense department or one that increases its funding by an exponential value.
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This part is easy on a state level. My state distributes funds to all public schools on a per pupil basis. The same amount of money, per pupil.


    Laurence, do you work for your living? I don't ask that as an insult at all. I ask that because I don't know if you are an adult on your own or if maybe you're a high school student living with your parents.

    I have said this before many times, but I will say it again to you. If you want the federal government to pay for education, then you must be willing to pay more in taxes to pay for it, and bring home less money out of your paycheck. There is no "free education". When you speak of "the federal government", you are speaking of something we pay for with money out of our incomes. If you want it to do more than it does, then you are talking about taking more of our incomes than they already do.

    So if you are willing to have less spending money than you have now after taxes are taken out, then a new program can be funded. If you want something, you have to be willing to pay for it. If you aren't willing to pay for it, you can't have it.
     
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    Yes, I have an income and I understand that hard working people must pay for things here in the USA. My point is that if we are willing to fund a false war or two that will occupy other nations for decades as well as funding for billion dollar fighter jets you must be willing to pay for the ultimate betterment of our children's education. They are our future you know.
     
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    And on the other issue my state here in illinois pays one student in the city of Chicago five thousand per student and out in the suburbs up to nine thousand. This is unfair and has resulted in low quality educations which I find very evident. An equal balance must be and can be made. If you could elaborate on how your state does things please.
     
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    Please show evidence of the above.

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    Then change the Constitution to authorize what you want. Currently, the Constitution requires the federal government to provide an army and navy. It does not require them to provide schools. Schools are fundamentally a state and local issue.
     
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    Well. Natural born school. :cool: :cool:
     
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    Not sure about survival skills but Im right here with you, Larry. Funding is a crap shoot across America. Here in Fla. we have 67 districts with their own funding. If you live in a poor county full of mobile homes and few jobs schools suffer. If you live in a district with lots of shoreline or nice lakes and jobs you have a WELL funded school system. That beach front property generates prop. taxes that enrich the schools. So if you have the right geography in Fla you have the advantage.
     
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    I just noticed this response. If you click on "Reply with Quote" and then write your reply, the person you're replying to will get a notification.

    I am a parent and grandparent. I am well aware that our children are our future, and I care about that very much. I am opposed to useless wars against countries that are no threat to us. I voted this year with that in mind. The goal would be that eventually all districts were spending the same per pupil amount.

    I live in Oregon. Education is funded locally through property taxes and by state funds. The State receives money through income taxes. It is that state income tax that provides for what they call "education equalization". Here is a snippet from information I was able to find ...

    That last sentence is the key to how it's done.

    In your state what would happen is that state education funds would be allocated to the poorer districts until such time as those districts were spending as much per pupil as the richer districts.
     
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    Don't forget typing/keyboarding...

    ... and other computer skills...

    ... in today's world it's essential.
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