I don't like Freetrade.

Discussion in 'Economics & Trade' started by The Rhetoric of Life, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. james M

    james M Banned

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    goof liberal has no reason so says BS as if that's debating. Embarrassing!!
    goof liberal has no reason so says BS as if that's debating. Embarrassing!!
     
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    More BS
    Fantasy.
    Why is the whole world creating one free trade zone after an other, because they are all liberals.
     
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    I already told you, to revise idiotic liberal trade deals that cost them their jobs. many Democrats switched parties to vote Trump in!!
     
  4. gnoib

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    BS is BS and how do you get the idea I am a liberal ?
    Or is that just the easy labeling of the one without argument ?
     
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    Dear, free trade or capitalism is what conservatives believe in. Liberals are socialists who want to regulate markets. Do you understand?
     
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    any reason to say I don't have argument???
     
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    You told me, now I am impressed. Why did 3 million more voted for a liberal, all idiots.
    just 88,000 in the rust belt winner take all States got the Idiot in Chief into power.
    And now you and I have to deal with the ridicules price increases of the tariffs and the trade deficit is growing at a record pace.
    Just brilliant.
     
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    That's why the private household debt in Europe is less than half than the ones in the US.
    That's why education is free, health care is very cheap, worker have 30 days payed vacation, nobody goes bankrupt just because of health problems and so on and so on.
    You even don't know who Ludwig Erhard is.
     
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    My Dear, your so called liberals create free trade zones so the countries within that zone can profit from each other and have free trade.
    Real conservatives understand that, it is just the radicals and Trumpistas and libertarians who do not get it.
     
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    trump supports even tougher trade deals, I support Trump on that, as do most Democrats, wish him well, do not think he will succeed, but I still wish him well at that mission

    Republicans before Trump were against Trade deals, so this is a good thing, maybe Trump will have changed Republican views on this one
     
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    You do not have an argument, anybody who does not agree with you gets labeled liberal.
    That's your only argument.
     
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    And here come the people with bullhorns, billy-clubs, and guns telling the rest of us with whom and how we may engage in trade.
     
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    I wonder were you got the 50% from, from fantasy land, Trump twitter...……….. ?
    1+1=2 only in the first grade, in economics no
     
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    That's why the Idiot in Chief slapped tariffs on consumer goods ? For lower prices for consumers.
    1+1 not = 2 but 5
     
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    Sure they should work for the same wage like in China, India or Vietnam, to be competitive, that's the radicals and Trumpistas dream.
     
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    So any employer who gives his workers a increase is a liberal.
     
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    yep, they should move to China, India or Vietnam if they want a system like China, India or Vietnam...
     
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    I disagree with your ideas that employees should be paid less then the min wage

    why would I want to learn greed 101 from you an 11th time?
     
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    An employee should be allowed to work for any amount she chooses. I disagree with bossing other people around.
     
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    and should work for those wages 70h or 80h a week under such lovely conditions, were demand and supply is the only rule
     
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    But not below minimum.
     
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    No. An employee should be allowed to work for any amount she chooses. I disagree with bossing other people around. Setting a minimum is bossing people around.
     
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    Nope, that would make the desperate sell his/her self into slavery and give the more powerful even more power.

    In a way we have that in the US with its health care system. That is a major power tool for employers, like me.
    You behave, do double time, or I replace you and you are out of health insurance, or I cut your hours, below what requires health insurance.
    You quit and find an other job and they call me to find out how good you are, have fun.
    Nope, employees are not a staple, they are humans, they need to be protected and need to be protected from themselves.
     
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    yep, and a employer has to at least pay the min wage
     
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    It would make them? How so?
    What if one wants to work for a wage below what you deem acceptable?
     

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