I feel bad for moderate Muslims.

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  1. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    I feel bad for moderate Muslims. They're part of a religion which says that jihadists rank higher than them in heaven. If they're too scared to fight for Allah, they are told they have the option to weakly submit and lie to others in order to help cover for the jihadists. Allah is merciful so as long as they helped the cause somehow in life, they can be bottom feeders in heaven just as they were in this world.

    They accept all of this, with ideas like freedom of speech being alien to them, because they're scared and used to submission. No one is poised to help them because confronting something that is the antithesis of western values has itself become a violation of western values according to impotent PC politicians.

    The best thing that could be done for "moderate" Muslims who are really just a cowed and terrified mass is making them realize that we have their backs should they no longer want to be a part of this but doing that wouldn't be PC, so they are left to the dogs.
     
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    I sympathize with them, too. In our town we had only one mosque and on the occasion of the First Gulf War I was assigned by the police department as the liaison with the mosque. Most of them were decent men. I had occasion to ask one evening why, when most of the people in the mosque were quite normal did the extremists rule the mosque. "They can't compromise. It's there way or no way."

    Sound rather like leftists. I had to settle a dispute between two groups of Saudis which had reached the point of knives being used. If it wasn't stopped, more than one would end up in prison. It was the city slickers versus the hillbillies. The hillbillies were fundamentalist and the city slickers were more modern.

    All in all it was interesting. I wouldn't want their lives but I'm not a Christian either.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I feel sorry for them too, as it looks like their religion has been taken over by extremists.

    even the President of Egypt says this.
     
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    They are just Muslims.........why do we call all non-radicalized Muslims moderates. Are Methodists moderate Christians because they are not in the KKK or Identity movement.
     
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    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    We call them moderate because there's practically no liberal Muslims and there's a reason for that.
     
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    I know several people who identify as Muslims and are liberal. They are about as devout as the liberal Catholics that I know, but they still self identify with the religion.
     
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    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    I know (barely) people like that too but they're anomalous and a lot rarer in Islam than in other religions.
     
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    I don't feel sorry for them at all because they're sitting back and allowing themselves to be abused; it's kinda like an abused wife who keeps going back to the husband that beats her. If she doesn't want to learn then I can't teach her.

    I once worked with a Muslim guy who I thought was an OK guy. I mean, he seemed completely Americanized and assimilated. Then a week or so after Obama parachuted in and killed Bin Laden, my Muslim friend said something along these lines: "We chased a man for 10 years to the point he could not feel safe anywhere. Bin Laden was living every day in fear that it could be his last day alive. Now who are the real terrorists?"

    I've come to believe that most if not all Muslims probably feel the same way and will ALWAYS put religion and those who adhere to their same beliefs before anything else.
     
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    I feel sorry for them too.
    Both of them.

    OK but in all seriousness, if they're truly concerned about the extremism in their faith then they can actually do something about it, which they haven't. Or they can convert, which they don't cause I guess they don't want to be brutally murdered.
     
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    I feel bad for them because their lives are in constant danger from the radical and extremist Islamicists too, just like everybo9dy else.

    And it's not a matter of being scared, it's a matter of interpreting the Koran.
     
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    Methodists are moderate. They don't come to my door to pester me when I'm reading. That's left to the more extreme Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-Day Adventists, Church of Christ members, and so forth. Methodists are moderate because the adults in the church don't feel compelled to tell a five-year old girl her father is going to hell for not being in their church.

    Methodists are moderate. But, if there were only one christian church in a town, it would be run by the extremists.
     
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    Jihad is a state of mind. An allegory.
     

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