I HAD AN AFFAIR WITH BRETT KAVANAUGH

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  1. thinkitout

    thinkitout Well-Known Member

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    Dr. Ford is NOT a politician, and by denigrating her, you are employing the same tactics that you accuse her of using on Kavanaugh. . . . Namely, discrediting her for political purposes. Your insensitivity in making light of this situation is appalling, and it only serves to discourage TRUE victims of rape from coming forward and confronting their attackers, thereby emboldening them to continue with impunity.

    Judge Kavanaugh has already been sworn in, and I sincerely HOPE that he is able to work with the Supreme Court HONORABLY in making nonpartisan, unbiased, and most importantly FAIR decisions. . . . There is nothing that we can do about it now, so there is no use "crying over spilt milk".
     
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    You, personally, may risk nothing. . . . It's our country that I'm worried about.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow!!!!!

    If I am really as diabolical and dastardly......
    as you think I am...... then I might actually have
    a career in politics ahead of me yet??????!

    In order to be guilty of what you just accused me of doing.......
    I think I would need at least forty or fifty more IQ points than the tests I wrote in
    1981 and 1983 or so indicated?!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...paign-writings-as-art.534297/#post-1069724030
    My 2006, 2008, 2016 and 2004 campaign writings as ART.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I am really as bright as you seem to think that I might just be........
    then it may come as some consolation to you that I also am worried about your country as well:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-dollar-problem.525406/page-4#post-1069687543

    M. P. Bill Casey... President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....
     
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    Ford and her legal team had a more than fair chance to lay out their case and failed miserably. First of all her appearance. She is a wreck, she looks to be 70 years old. It is hard to believe she is barely 50. Next, her mousy demeanor. Squeaky little victim voice. Does anyone thing someone who has a doctorate and instructs at a college level is that shy? Next, the premise of this entire episode was brought on from psychiatric treatment. Why wasn't the therapist allowed to testify and her notes and procedures exposed? Next, she did not testify, she read a lawyer composed statement. Why wasn't the lie detector test released? We all know the only reason it wasn't is because it shows she lied. Next, her credibility. Credible people have the facts correct. They don't have two different stories on how many men were in the room. They don't claim to clearly remember small details, yet not know whose house she was at, how she got there, how she got home, etc. Lastly, every witness she named failed to add one shred of corroboration to her claims.

    This whole cluster is nothing but a below the belt shot using a mentally disturbed woman by a desperate and despicable Democratic party.
     
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    Our country is better off with conservative strict constructionalists on the court
     
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    Very much so :(
     
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    It IS diabolic and dastardly to belittle victims of sexual attacks. . . . Would you respond the same in a situation where a child accuses a pedophile???

    Kavanaugh's advocates rationalized his innocence by attacking her credibility regarding an eyewitness account. This was merely a "he said, she said" argument.

    In a court of law, a SINGLE witness identifying the suspect in a lineup is often enough evidence in itself to put an offender behind bars. . . . But dubious prior history in the form of serious allegations, even without concrete evidence, is enough to disqualify a Supreme Court nominee. . . . Not to mention his belligerent demeanor under interrogation, which could be construed as other than "righteous indignation", and his implied threats (What goes around, comes around).

    Republicans were obviously more empathetic towards Kavanaugh than Ford, while Democrats empathized with Ford. . . . This SHOULD NOT have been a partisan battle.
     
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    What's sad (and revealing) is that you "people" are mocking all the women (including Dr. Ford) who have been sexually assaulted.

    There will be a price for your hubris
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Ms. Ford could have passed the lie detector tests............. the results would have been released to the media..... ........ that is a given considering the seriousness of the situation over these past few weeks!
     
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    If personal 'beliefs' and 'possible guilt' are the new criteria for judging people then we have indeed entered a dangerous period much worse than anything which occurred during the McCarthy era. Ar least there were Communists in the government and media at the time whereas the leftists have no evidence or corroboration whatsoever in the case of Justice Kavanaugh.

    If governments begin conducting their policies according to left wing feelings and beliefs then truth, honor and decency will disappear from the nation with dishonesty, chicanery and incivility taking their place.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics/hillary-clinton-civility-congress-cnntv/index.html
     
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    . . . And why did Ford PERSONALLY reveal that she had taken the polygraph test had she not passed it??? . . . The woman has a PhD in psychology; that MUST require some semblance of logical skills.
     
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    When doing background checks on prospective employees, employers rely heavily on references of former employers. One bad reference can ruin an applicant's chances of being hired. . . . The Supreme Court is a lifelong position, and the requirement for impeccable integrity demands MUCH MORE than a rushed, prejudged investigation in order to dispel all possible doubt regarding the allegation.
     
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    There were NO bad references in Justice Kavanaugh's record, only positive ones, and he has been investigated by the FBI seven times.

    There is nothing left for the FBI to investigate.
     
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    Perhaps the woman is a liar. Given that she has nothing to support her claims, nothing at all, it may be something to consider.
     
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    Perhaps she IS a liar. . . . But, unlike Kavanaugh, you have prejudged HER without evidence. If allegations ARE true, Ford has been victimized a SECOND time by Kavanaugh.

    As I said before, almost without exception, ANY witnesses to rape are trusted friends of the accused who might be charged with complicity.
     
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    ANY allegations from ANY sources are bad references. It is not up to you to discard sources that don't support your own endgame. Rationalization may seem like a logical way to ease one's conscience, but burying one's head in the sand often has less than ideal consequences.

    I'm hoping that Kavanaugh will be a good judge, but I am not pleased with the open and shut investigation leading to his confirmation.
     
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    ANY allegations from ANY sources are bad references. It is not up to you to discard sources that don't support your own endgame. Rationalization may seem like a logical way to ease one's conscience, but burying one's head in the sand often has less than ideal consequences.

    I'm hoping that Kavanaugh will be a good judge, but I am not pleased with the open and shut investigation leading to his confirmation.
     
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    How can I be prejudging her when I say "Perhaps"? However it's clear that one of them is lying and there is no evidence whatsoever that Kavanaugh is lying. That leaves Dr.Ford, who was never able to corroborate her story and, in fact, her 'witnesses' said it never happened.

    This 'guilt by accusation' must stop and no fair minded person, or judge, should ever go down the road. It cheapens everything the country should stand for.
     
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    There swere SEVEN iinvestigations into his background over the years and theey are apparently very thorough. No one has ever come forwarrd in all these years too say anything other than he was, and is, a decent man and an excellent judge. It was all about the crudest and ugliest politics since the McCarthy era and everyone involved should be deeply ashamed.

    But of course they won't be. Incivility is now the mantra of the Leftists in America, as elsewhere, and their more sensible and traditional supporters should remember this in November.
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    . . . In other words, rapes without witnesses, or those in which witnesses are unwilling to testify, should continue to not be reported. Attempted rapes should be allowed to continue until the victim has collected a DNA sample. . . . Of course, the burden of proof is on the victim to prove the act was not consensual.

    It isn't a far cry from the radical Muslim practice of executing rape victims.
     
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    Your accusation of lack of civility does not excuse your lack of compassion.
     
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    I don't need 'other words'. Mine are fine. All rape reports, and any other crimes, should be reported as soon as possible after they occur, not 36 years later for political purposes.

    Really? You think that a woman needing evidence for a rape is the same as a Muslim murdering a rape victim? You should avoid analogies if this is the best you can do.
     
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    Don't quite get that. Where did I display a lack of compassion?
     
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    Question any woman who has ever been sexually assaulted regarding the validity of my "other words". . . . Victims are more common than you think, although they may be unwilling to admit it to you if they are aware of your perspective. The humiliation, degradation, and harassment that Ford has experienced should be enough to give EVEN YOU a clue as to why women seldom report these crimes.

    The "me too" movement is simply frustrated women coming out of "the closet".

    That impenetrable shell insulating your brain is apparently inhibiting comprehension. . . . Women are stigmatized in both cultures as victims before and after the act. Ford HAS received death threats.
     

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