I just emailed my religious vaccination exemption request to the U.S Department of State. Thoughts?

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    In other words, you can drive **** faced drunk if you want to.

    You can rob banks, shoot people, demolish other people's property, or do any damn thing you want.

    Because, your god said nobody is allowed to slow you from what YOU want to do.


    Now, I KNOW this is a popular idea. We see sociopaths all over the news, and even in congress!

    >> Let me encourage you to start your spree by robbing a bank.
     
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    jhil2020 Well-Known Member

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    No that is not what Liberty of the Individual teaches. Go read. Go learn about humanity. Go learn about ideology and theology and discern how their differences are less important than than their similarities.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    LOL. You're idea is FAR easier to figure out than that!

    You project ZERO limits to your right to ignore US law at any time you damn well please.

    So, rob a bank already
     
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    Sure you do. But it’s still unsubstantiated opinion that conflicts with the actual evidence.
    Never said otherwise. Strawman.
    Pretty much. So are you advocating for mandates that make people healthier? As many people die annually of obesity as die annually from Covid. Plus a great share of Covid deaths are attributed to obesity and diabetes and other unhealthy lifestyle diseases. You are wanting to mandate a band aid for an an arterial bleed. It would be much more logical to control other things people put in their body besides just vaccines.
    I could write such law. You just wouldn’t like it because—freedums. It’s no more STUPID than mandating a vaccine that can’t even help some people forced to take it. If protection of the innocent is the goal, laws on healthy lifestyle are more logical than one for a vaccine for a single disease. Health mandates would save many more lives in the long run. But you oppose them because of your…freedums.
    Yep. A legal action that does not align with the principles of equality under the law. A legal action that only addresses part of one pandemic. Mandating healthy lifestyle would address many pandemics and epidemics simultaneously.
    Threat? The thread is about a mandate that is illogical based on equality under the law and principles of epidemiology. I’m pointing out with evidence why the mandate is illogical and inconsistent with American values. You have some unsubstantiated opinions about mandating something much less effective for public health than other options.
    LOL. I just posted links to the BBC, Fox News, and the New York Times communicating the information!
    Who is treating it that way? Not the CDC. Not major news organizations. Like I said, anyone who knows anything about virology is not surprised SARS-CoV-2 has lingering effects. Other viral infections including influenza do. I’m sorry the Covid long term effects are new to you, but those of us paying attention have been discussing them forever. So has the news media.
     
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    557 Well-Known Member

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    And most of them incorrect.
    I’m talking about TODAY. The truth is the CDC is still not recommending quality masks.
    Because you say so? Why not start by making a certain BMI a qualification for employment? Or just start by eliminating soft drinks from the marketplace? Easy. I don’t think any religion requires their adherents to drink sugary beverages.
    Yep. We could remove alcohol and sweetened drinks from the marketplace. We could mandate exercise regimens and track with cell phones. We could make people STOP putting things in their body as a requirement for employment instead of making people PUT something in their body as a requirement for employment. You just don’t want to because it would curtail your freedums.
    Well, since that reason doesn’t exist….I guess all you have left is the appeal to the stone fallacy.

    Sure. What we do personally in respect to Covid affects others. People who put on weight during the pandemic made the vaccines less efficacious for them leading to more breakthrough infections and transmission. People who don’t exercise have compromised immune systems and higher BMI that lead higher likelihood of infection and longer shedding of virus and higher viral loads. People who are intoxicated are more likely to become infected and infected others. There are a plethora of ways we can defend against the pandemic that are as effective as vaccines. Remember 90% of deaths occur in overweight societies. Our choices lead to obesity and to increased spread of Covid. You only want to use ONE mitigation. You want to force it and ignore the more egregious elephant in the room.

    To be clear, I say everyone has the right to put massive amounts of Twinkies in their body and get huge and crash into people on the highway because they are obese. I say people have the right to NOT put something in their body as well. Equality under the law.
     
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    There have been some very good improvements in anesthetics. For my last surgery they gave me an anesthetic that could be reversed immediately after completion of the surgery. I was wide awake when they wheeled me out of the OR. The recovery was nothing compared to the older things they used to use. I'm not experienced in anesthesiology so I leave that up to the doctors who have the experience.
     
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    To answer your questions, no. Your request for an exemption is going to be rejected.
     
  8. WillReadmore

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    I pointed out that your obesity thing is absolutely preposterous. Obesity is a problem in America, but it is not comparable to COVID in terms of possible regulatory action as you keep claiming.

    You're just dodging and making wild accusations concerning the lingering effects. It IS poorly known throughout the US and it IS being substantially ignored in the press.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html
    Asked and answered.
     
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    Obesity kills as many in the US annually as are dying annually from Covid. You want your freedums. We get it.
    LOL. What wild accusations? I posted links to stories in the biggest media sources around! I don’t make wild accusations. I base my posts on evidence. I showed you evidence the media IS reporting on the issue.
     
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    Yep. In May of 2021 there were already a huge surplus of N95 masks available. The CDC per your link were still recommending inferior cloth masks and recommend AGAINST N95 and equivalent masks. Killed a lot of people with that incorrect advice. They STILL aren’t recommending high quality masks.
    I accept your concession. You want your freedums. You need to allow others their freedums as well.
     
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    I stand by what I stated.
     
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    NO. I object to your gross misrepresentations.
     
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    good way to die young now days
     
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    Umm, read the OP. It makes my post pretty clear.
     
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    The stated reason was not "religious".
     
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    I will follow this thread, I may have to do the same to the U.S. Department of Energy. The recent information that has just come out is that those that caught CV-19 don't get it again except in massive outlier cases 5 in 30,000,000. There is no need for me to take the jab. Rand Paul read the study to Dr. Fauci in the U.S. Senate today and Fauci did not refute any of it. It was another Fauci loss by KO.
     
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    It's like playing Russian roulette taking vaccines with no long term study's for side effects.
     
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    Or you could die from vaccine related blood clots which cause......

     

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