I live in a Black Neighbourhood, what about you?

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    It is what it is.
    I mean, I could argue that we're more mixed than black with Asians from Africa when Uganda expelled all my neighbours back in the day or the Polish and other Eastern Europeans today but, we're pretty much black.
    I'm not black, I'm white/White British... but...
    I don't care/mind, this is my country, Thornton Heath, whatever neighbourhood it is, is home to me like Soho is and London in general from City of Westminster to City of London and Lambeth/Southwark/Croydon boroughs too. - This is the UK to me.

    There's this 'famous' one which is the town over from me called Brixton, but a couple of years go people were shouting off how this is 'blacker than Brixton'.
    A bus that comes to my closest bus stop, has a bus that goes from Croydon to Brixton. - I still can't believe Prime Minister John Major (the first one I remember) was/is a local boy. From Brixton and his sister was friends with us too.

    I like where I come from, even though I'm not black, but, what about you...

    Ever been to a black neighbourhood?
     
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    I saw them filming this on my home from work when I stepped out the train station.
    I didn't know who he was at the time, but I knew he was somebody fore his chains 'that bling' and that camera crew.
     
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    Nope. I live in a mostly white neighborhood. I don't think there are as many black people up north here as there are in the southern states. Anyways, while there were a couple/few black kids in my school when I was a kid, white people were by far the majority in my town, and where I currently live.
     
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    Yeah, I didn't actually go to the best of schools, in fact, mine ranked bottom in Croydon and was a school heavily mixed and every student black white or asian was a little Jamaican. Was fun though, This was the same borough, but across town in a white neighbourhood, but a lot of us lived around the borough.
     
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    When I first left England, to Pennsyvania, to Willow Grove, PA, that was 'white America' though it was mixed, it pretty much is 'White America' bless it.

    TbH - my trip to Oregon and Wisconsin to go guitar shopping might be another escape for me too, but whatever, I like America, so I want to go to America.
     
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    In the U.S. a lot of traditionally Black neighborhoods are becoming gentrified.
    Living in the inner city is the trendy thing to do now for young professionals with money.

    Ironically, as the low-income population becomes priced out and the crime rate drops, it becomes all the more desirable a neighborhood to live in. Sort of the exact opposite phenomena of what happened in the 1970s.
     
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    I see this in Europe too. Brixton, London's famous black neighbourhood, has been subject to gentrification too which is also changing the demographics a bit, but then, black people also have money in the UK, and when I attended Lambeth College at their Clapham campus, I befriended a black British born raised in Germany guy who just before coming to class, moved back to London...
    So he gave my an insight into Germany, was a nice enough guy, friendly, cool, and I remember during one of our conversations, he remarked in seeing so many black people in the UK in BMWs and Mercedes and apparently, this is unseen in Germany; In the UK, for a little while, BMWs were called Black Man Wagons because of all the black guys you see driving them; here.

    I met a black girl/mixed race girl from Poland in Amsterdam.
    Apparently that's rare but she was beautiful.
     
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    I have lived in mixed neighborhoods most of my life. The only problem I ever encountered were my useless white neighbors that sugared my gas tank and a bullet hole in my siding which was probably from my hillbilly neighbor. In that neighborhood it started changing from black thunder cars to Mexican music thundering past the house. I invited friends over and some were afraid to visit because of the neighborhood.

    I now live in a gentrified downtown that is still pretty mixed.
     
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    I grew up in a mixed Jewish/black/Puerto Rican/Dominican area.

    was mugged once, on the subway.

    friend was mugged once.

    dad never mugged.
     
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    In deed, I too know the shame of knowing white trash for living in a black neighbourhood.
    I have been known to publicly tell them off for sitting in the street making white people look bad.

    I have a streak in me that I can only liken to Hank Hill a fictional character from King of the Hill.
    I vote Tory and if I have to I'd kick your arse and detain until the law comes...
    IDK, I'm from South London but I take pride in my garden and like to keep politicians and police on my good side.
    I'm also clean shaven and get my hair cut too.
    The only time I talk 'common' I do it correct, on a site in construction and I also use my father's native Cockney and say Guv'nor as it 'just helps on site' and NEVER say Boss like a convict.
    Sadly however, there is white trash here too..
    Some good whites, but, the white trash is here too, and since we're all white, we sort of nod to each other...
    Also, I'm sure they hate me/think I'm a snob, but I don't care, I'm not related to them and I don't ever care to be either, tbh.
     
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    So America is finally catching up in this regard. In other countries, inner cities have been expensive and gentrified since the 1970s. There haven't been working class people in such locations in decades where in my own country. The poorest people live in the suburbs.
     
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    This article needs to be updated. Please update this article to reflect recent events or newly available information. (February 2017)
    Massachusetts has an estimated 2017 population of 6.833 million.[1] As of 2007, Massachusetts is estimated to be the third most densely populated U.S. state, with 822.7 per square mile, after New Jersey and Rhode Island, and ahead of Connecticut and Maryland.

    Historical population
    Census
    Pop.
    1790
    378,787 —
    1800 422,845 11.6%
    1810 472,040 11.6%
    1820 523,287 10.9%
    1830 610,408 16.6%
    1840 737,699 20.9%
    1850 994,514 34.8%
    1860 1,231,066 23.8%
    1870 1,457,351 18.4%
    1880 1,783,085 22.4%
    1890 2,238,947 25.6%
    1900 2,805,346 25.3%
    1910 3,366,416 20.0%
    1920 3,852,356 14.4%
    1930 4,249,614 10.3%
    1940 4,316,721 1.6%
    1950 4,690,514 8.7%
    1960 5,148,578 9.8%
    1970 5,689,170 10.5%
    1980 5,737,037 0.8%
    1990 6,016,425 4.9%
    2000 6,349,097 5.5%
    2010 6,547,629 3.1%
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    Massachusetts has seen both population increases and decreases in recent years. For example, while some Bay Staters are leaving, others including European, Asian, Hispanic and African immigrants, arrive to replace them. Massachusetts in 2004 included 881,400 foreign-born residents.

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    Most Bay Staters live within a 60 mile radius of the State House on Beacon Hill, often called Greater Boston: the City of Boston, neighboring cities and towns, the North Shore, South Shore, the northern, western, and southern suburbs, and most of southeastern and central Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts is more urban than Western Massachusetts, which is primarily rural, save for the cities of Springfield, Chicopee, Holyoke and Northampton, which serve as centers of population density in the Pioneer Valley of the Connecticut River. The center of population of Massachusetts is located in Middlesex County, in the town of Natick.[5]



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    Ancestry[edit]
    The largest ancestry groups are:[6]

    The five largest reported ancestries in Massachusetts are Irish (22.8%), Italian (13.9%), French-Canadian (or Franco-American) (11.6%), English (10.7%), and German (6.4%).

    Massachusetts is the most Irish state in the country in percentage of total population. Irish Americans are most concentrated in the eastern and southeastern parts of the state; the South Shore region has an Irish population above 40% (giving it the nickname of the "Irish Riviera") Massachusetts also has large communities of people of Finnish and Swedishdescent; Armenian, Lebanese descent; and Italian descent. Other influential ethnicities are Greek Americans, Lithuanian Americans and Polish Americans. Massachusetts "Yankees," of colonial English ancestry, still have a strong presence. French Americans form a significant part of the population in central and northwestern Massachusetts, while Polish Americans are prevalent in the Springfield area and English Americans are common in the rural areas of western Massachusetts.

    Boston's largest immigrant groups are Haitians. In the northeast of the state, is home to a large Cambodian (Khmer) community, second in the country only to the concentration of Cambodians in Long Beach, California. Massachusetts also has the fastest growing population of South Asians, including Indian people, which are concentrated in certain areas of Greater Boston and outside such as Shrewsbury, Woburn, Malden, Quincy, Somerville, and Cambridge.

    Massachusetts has the largest Portuguese and Cape Verdean populations in the United States, and one of the largest lusophone populations in North America. Fall River and New Bedford on the south coast have large populations of Portuguese, Brazilian, and Cape Verdean heritage, all of which are also prevalent in the Brockton area. There is a growing Brazilian population in the Boston area (especially in Framingham).

    Although many of the Native Americans have intermarried with other ethnic groups (or died in King Philip's War of 1675),[citation needed] the Wampanoag tribe maintains reservations at Aquinnah, at Grafton, on Martha's Vineyard, and at Mashpee on Cape Cod.[7][8] The Nipmuck maintain two state-recognized reservations in the central part of the state. Many Wampanoags and other native people live outside of reservations.


    Massachusetts Racial Breakdown of Population
    [hide]Racial composition
    2013 Est.[9]
    White 83.2%
    White (Non-Hispanic) 75.1%
    Hispanic 10.5%
    Black 8.1%
    Asian 6.0%
    Native 0.5%
    Other race 0.1%
    Two or more races 2.1%
     
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    This comedian, I like because, I get her.

    I think she reflects my own society and gets the London I know.
     
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    I've never been mugged or robbed. I've never lived in a big city either though.
     
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    Brockton, Framingham, and a lot of other cities up towards Boston way are pretty bad when it comes to crime. Also, Fall River and New Bedford. In my area, there aren't a lot of bad cities/towns. Most of them are pretty nice and small towns. The ones closest that are bad is probably Brockton/Framingham.
     
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    I'm Polish, Irish and a few other things. My great great grandparents on my mother's side came here from Poland around the time of the first world war maybe? Not sure on that. I will have to find out. Both of my grandfathers have passed on and one of my grandmothers. My other grandmother is suffering from Alzheimer's, so I have no one to ask but my mother and my aunt. I would be very interested to know more, and I wish I had asked more about my ancestors of my grandparents. :(
     
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    Slash is black, half black, and he's like my Willie Nelson if I was Hank Hill since we're both born in London and like the guitar.
    Jimi Hendrix was also black, and lived and worked in Westminster from Mayfair to Soho.
    But that's not Thornton Heath.

    Thornton Heath has a lot of Jamaican artists.
     
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    My wife and I are white and we have never lived in what would be considered a black neighborhood. However, we do have black neighbors, the closest living across the street.
     
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    I'm English and part Welsh born in London, can trace ancestors on Wikipedia and their works have been exhibited in museums and all of that. Also, my families fought in both world wars, once for the Canadians (when a Brit who moved to Canada came back to London with them in WWI) and then for the British in WWII.
     
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    The black people who I went to school with in my area were middle class/upper middle class (or their parents anyway).
     
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    I grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood. It was pretty cohesive because, I think, we were all of the same economic class. I kept hearing talk of this "racism" concept on television. I never saw any, so I couldn't understand the fools promoting that weird idea. I suppose that I intellectually know better now, but it still seems weird to me.

    I now live in an almost entirely white neighborhood which has all but the very highest of income levels represented. I'll argue it's more "diverse" than the neighborhood I grew up in.
     
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    My neighborhood is mixed race, still mostly white. We have more foreign-born people moving in the last few years than blacks. My city is minority-majority, mostly black, but that is more a statistical quirk based on the map. The area is still mostly white. The whites have just mostly moved to an area just outside the city limits but still work/shop/whatever in the city so it doesn't feel like a minority-majority city.
     
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    Bungalow land.... white retired gentlefolk for the most part pottering around in their well kept gardens (jackets and ties some of them!!) walking their hounds and chatting over the fences discussing all that building work going on at No.34.... what a to do!....anyway soz mate... all pretty boring really.
     
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    I lived on 93rd St and First Ave in Manhattan once. That's Harlem, I think? Safe, though.
     

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